[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.93,0:00:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(We're here with Juliet Schor Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.90,0:00:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is in Manhattan Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.40,0:00:05.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.08,0:00:09.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's a professor at Boston College Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.80,0:00:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cofounder of the Center New American Dream Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.36,0:00:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She also wrote the books Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.80,0:00:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the overspent american Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.63,0:00:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the overworked american Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.74,0:00:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and recently she published about FeF in Plenitude Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.67,0:00:23.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell us more, maybe more about yourself Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.66,0:00:25.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How we got here Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.01,0:00:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what do you see as the point of collaborating) Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.12,0:00:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there are a lot of them Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.44,0:00:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One we're both interested in shifting Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.83,0:00:42.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ecological sustainable production systems Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.35,0:00:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Number two Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.85,0:00:46.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we both understand Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.07,0:00:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,human reproduction can be done using Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.50,0:00:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,far less labour than it is today Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.00,0:01:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there are tremendous efficiencies posible Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.02,0:01:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by changing to new forms of economy Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.52,0:01:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and new technologies Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.92,0:01:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I focus more on the new economic forms Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.10,0:01:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than the technologies Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.15,0:01:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understanding that they go together Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.65,0:01:13.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I spent a lot of my career Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.24,0:01:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically working on the ways the current Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.80,0:01:21.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extraordinarily wasteful Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.87,0:01:23.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how we could have Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.41,0:01:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good high-quality high-satisfaction Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.80,0:01:35.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,low eco-impact lifestyles Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.02,0:01:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with very low levels of hours of labour required for them Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.52,0:01:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,american Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.20,0:01:38.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being a society Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.15,0:01:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to reduce hours of work Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.77,0:01:46.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to one in which in which the average american is Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.02,0:01:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working more and more hours, and unnecesarily so Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.22,0:01:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(now you're gonna republish Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.38,0:01:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Plenitude Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.38,0:01:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell us more about it) Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.70,0:02:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Plenitude is a book about Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.09,0:02:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which involves sort of Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.36,0:02:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,withdrawing from the market economy Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.36,0:02:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working fewer hours Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.78,0:02:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spending less money in the consumer economy Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.07,0:02:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and get involved in more DIY Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.16,0:02:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the term that I used in that book Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.85,0:02:24.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came from the wonderful visionary phylosopher Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.06,0:02:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Richard Bergman Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.26,0:02:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the key messages from the book Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.01,0:02:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that it's now posible Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.20,0:02:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a very small scale Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.27,0:02:40.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be highly efficient productive Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.91,0:02:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the scale of the industrial era which was big Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.40,0:02:51.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the optimal scale has declined pretty dramatically Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.15,0:02:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what this means for individuals, households and communities Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.84,0:03:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that they can do a lot of the production of their own needs locally Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.51,0:03:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high skilled and high productivity labour Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.06,0:03:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually with local Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.21,0:03:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much of the philosophy of Plenitude Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.90,0:03:19.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the principles of Plenitude which are Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.11,0:03:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shorter hours of work Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.62,0:03:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and time affluence Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.80,0:03:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the business as usual Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.90,0:03:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new time of consuming Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.82,0:03:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,true materialism Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.91,0:03:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the fourth Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.33,0:04:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social capital Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.00,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creating economic interdependence Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very local scale Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connection Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,local scale Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those are very much the same Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think many of the principles of FeF and OSE Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(yeah) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,parallel lines in terms of the economic ideas behind the models Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(yeah, yeah) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(how do you think we can work together Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on these topics Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so what are some of the practical aspects Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from these meetings) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i would love collaboration Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,network Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plenitude practitioners - i wouldn't name Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spreading these ideas Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people doing more high-tech self-providing Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,delinking Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also some interesting issues Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the educational side Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MacArthur Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connected learning Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connection is a word you use quite a bit Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people-nature, people-people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connected technology Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so on and so forth Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i think that's another area Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to be studying Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open source hardware movement Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(so we'll be a case-study) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upskilling Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes, you'll be a case study Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the research that i'm doing for MacArthur Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a fundation Chicago Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(hum, hum) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just want to end by saying Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love FeF OSE Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i love this project Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really visionary and practical at the same time Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's the way of the future Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(thanks Juliet) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Happy New Year! Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(yeah)