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Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.02,0:00:04.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Dean Spade ] So, yeah, first I wanted to say \Nthanks. It's really exciting to be here.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.37,0:00:08.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm really honoured to be part of a conversation\Nwith the other folks who are gonna be in this
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.41,0:00:11.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--who I can't see right now \Nbut I trust are in front of you--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.62,0:00:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Dean and audience laughing ]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.06,0:00:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-who are all activists and scholars who \NI really admire and inspired by,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.24,0:00:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I feel really lucky.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.96,0:00:21.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I also just want to say, obviously \NI'm coming to this work from the U.S.,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.54,0:00:24.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that's my frame,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.13,0:00:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's some overlap obviously with \NCanadian conditions and politics and histories,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.20,0:00:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there's also a lot of divergence,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.03,0:00:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I hope it'll be useful,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.37,0:00:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's my, sort of, framework.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.71,0:00:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm also gonna be reading, \Nbecause I'm trying to be really concise,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.62,0:00:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that we can stick to our schedule,\Nso I apologize for reading.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.06,0:00:47.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah so when I was invited \Nto speak at this event,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.25,0:00:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was asked to be part of a series that \NI guess is about critical masculinities,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.96,0:00:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so what I wanted to think about was
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.46,0:01:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how really highly-gendered roles in our very\Nmilitaristic, settler, white supremacist societies
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.54,0:01:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--like spouse, soldier, police officer--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.91,0:01:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have come to stand in a really complicated way
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.02,0:01:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as symbols right now, of sexual \Nand gender liberation in some contexts.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.92,0:01:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how weird that is, especially given that \Nmany feminist and queer movements
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.11,0:01:21.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have sought to eliminate \Nthe existence of those roles.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.93,0:01:25.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I want to try to spend these few minutes\Njust talking and thinking about that.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.79,0:01:32.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think in particular these conversations \Nabout that dynamic that I just named,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.33,0:01:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are servicing in important ways right now,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.88,0:01:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the role that equality \Nfor gay and lesbian people,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.72,0:01:44.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in some instances but not usually trans people, \Nis playing in global discourses about human rights,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.26,0:01:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,increasingly the degree to which \Ncountries have adopted certain high-profile
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.88,0:01:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lesbian and gay law reforms,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.92,0:01:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specifically granting marriage recognition, \Nand access to military service to gays and lesbians,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.96,0:02:01.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is framed as central to a country's reputation \Nregarding respect for human rights.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.95,0:02:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In recent years, the U.S. and Israel \Nhave put significant resources
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.00,0:02:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into framing countries with certain \Nlesbian and gay rights in place as "modern",
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.71,0:02:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while framing countries \Nthat don't have those in place --
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.66,0:02:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly framing Arab and African countries \Nas "backward" and "un-democratic".
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.36,0:02:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this strategy of using lesbian and gay rights, \Nparticularly marriage and military participation,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.78,0:02:26.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a marker of being \Na human rights respecting country,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.99,0:02:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and particularly doing so in the face of charges \Nof ongoing significant human rights violations,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.08,0:02:32.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been called "pinkwashing".
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.82,0:02:34.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe that's a term \Nthat a lot of people have heard.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.97,0:02:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in the U.S. context,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.01,0:02:43.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hilary Clinton's 2011 speech where she said\N"gay rights are human rights",
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.87,0:02:47.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,along with the prevalence of references\Nto same-sex marriage and gay rights
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.57,0:02:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the 2012 Democratic National Convention,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.89,0:02:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are examples of American pinkwashing.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.40,0:02:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Clinton's [ inaudible ] is a relatively new logic \Nin U.S. imperialism.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.45,0:03:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That the U.S., regardless of failures \Nto protect queer and trans people
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.39,0:03:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from state violence here in the U.S., \Nwhere I am, not you [ laughs ],
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.22,0:03:10.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will now use gay rights as a measure to...\N
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.54,0:03:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a measure to countries \Nit seeks to intervene on.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.19,0:03:15.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically, like, "we're going to \Ncall countries homophobic
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.53,0:03:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and that'll give us a good excuse to bomb them \Nor show up there and do weird military stuff."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.30,0:03:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Clinton uses lesbian and gay rights to bolster \Nthe notion that the U.S. is the world's policing arm
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.73,0:03:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forcing democracy and equality globally \Non purportedly backward and cruel governments.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.28,0:03:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gay rights operates as \Na new justification for this imperial role,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.34,0:03:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a justification that fits really well within\Nanti-Arab and anti-Muslim framings
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.86,0:03:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have been developed during the war on terror,\Nand portray Arab and Muslim countries
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.80,0:03:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as more sexist and more homophobic \Nthan the U.S., Europe and Israel.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.46,0:03:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also see this with the framing of\Nthe U.S. intervention in Afghanistan,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.64,0:03:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's supposed to, like, save Afghan women,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.96,0:03:55.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like this kind of women-saving, \Ngay-saving framework is very popular,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.21,0:03:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the saving framework has a very long history,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.50,0:04:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in some ways the gay-saving \Nframework seen in a new way.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.05,0:04:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the Democratic National Convention,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.73,0:04:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obama's [U.S. President] support for \Nsame-sex marriage similarly helped him
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.47,0:04:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,portray his administration as progressive --
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.17,0:04:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, like, the number of people \Nwho buy into this is shocking --
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.81,0:04:12.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and equality-loving in order to obscure \Nhis abysmal record on key issues
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.45,0:04:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as austerity, his failure to close \NGuantanamo, ongoing drone strikes,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.72,0:04:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,harsh sanctions against Iran,\Nthe long wars in Iraq and Afghanistan,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.21,0:04:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and his record-breaking rates \Nof deportation --
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.88,0:04:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sure you know he's the most deporting \Npresident ever in the history of the United States--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.86,0:04:27.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think in particular you see \Nthis kind of American pinkwashing,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.33,0:04:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've seen it again more recently \Nin his inaugural address,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.08,0:04:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he talked about Stonewall, which basically, \Nlike, caused me to fall over,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.31,0:04:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,y'know, it's again... \Nwhy is this guy talking about Stonewall?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.50,0:04:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stonewall's a moment of resistance \Nto police brutality.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.74,0:04:44.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's running the country that imprisons \Nmore people than anyone in the world,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.61,0:04:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where queer and trans people\Nare still suffering
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.99,0:04:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,police violence and extremely horrifying \Nconditions of imprisonment.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.77,0:04:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, how does this fit?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.93,0:04:56.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, recently he's \Nkind of made waves
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.76,0:05:02.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there's this really awful immigration \Nreform policy going around in the United States
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.30,0:05:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's supposed to be like the answer to \Nthe unjust system of immigration enforcement,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.83,0:05:10.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but really it's just a way of \Nramping up immigration enforcement.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.14,0:05:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said about it that he's gonna make sure \Nthat gay and lesbian couples can be in on it,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.78,0:05:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is kind of this pinkwashing of this actually \Nreally conservative set of policies and principles
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.34,0:05:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around immigration that we're \Nsupposed to be, like, grateful for.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.79,0:05:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And many people do articu- [ inaudible ]
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.66,0:05:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The term "pinkwashing" \Nis most frequently used to describe
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.11,0:05:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the explicit strategy Israel has \Nundertaken in recent years
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.97,0:05:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to market itself as a human rights leader,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.33,0:05:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based on its stances on same-sex marriage,\Nand LGBT military service.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.54,0:05:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Israel has explicitly worked with \Nmarketing experts to re-brand itself
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.14,0:05:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to overcome its international reputation \Nas a brutal occupying force.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.74,0:05:50.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think particularly in the face of the \NBoycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.89,0:05:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which has really raised a lot of awareness\N
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.94,0:05:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about, even further than before, \Nabout these issues.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.58,0:06:01.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The new image is focused on portraying Israel\Nas a modern democracy in the Middle East,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.07,0:06:04.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surrounded by countries with supposedly \Nless enlightened policy and culture.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.23,0:06:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A key feature of that portrayal is \Nthe articulation of Israel as a country
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.15,0:06:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that recognizes gay and lesbian rights,\Nspecifically marriage and military service,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.60,0:06:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that it is an ideal destination \Nfor gay and lesbian tourism.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.56,0:06:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As part of its pinkwashing efforts,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.45,0:06:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Israel has funded tours of Israelis \Nto the United States
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.48,0:06:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to discuss Israel's military and marriage \Nlaws with respect to gays and lesbians.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.76,0:06:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's like a really aggressive kind \Nof propaganda machine.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.72,0:06:34.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Critics of same sex marriage and military \Nservice advocacy in the United States,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.35,0:06:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and critics of pinkwashing,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.52,0:06:40.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have suggested that it's necessary \Nto look at what these institutions are
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.19,0:06:45.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to assess whether inclusion in them \Nis a felicitous goal for queer and trans politics.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.86,0:06:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The militaries of both the United States \Nand Israel have been accused of war crimes,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.91,0:06:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and operate daily in what have been identified \Nas illegal and immoral occupations.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.40,0:06:56.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the case of Israel, \Nuh Palestine in the case of Israel.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.65,0:06:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Puerto Rico, Guam, Hawaii,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.02,0:07:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the part of North America currently known \Nas the continental United States,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.62,0:07:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Northern Mariana Islands, the Marshall Islands, \Nand more, in the case of the United States.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.32,0:07:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Internally, the U.S. military has a culture \Nand practice of sexism, racism, and torture,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.53,0:07:15.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have been consistently identified \Nby survivors and critics.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.47,0:07:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Recent publications and the exposure \Nof classified documents
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.68,0:07:22.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have further highlighted \Nthe lawless violence of the U.S. military,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.17,0:07:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the ways that its operations, \Nsuch as the occupation of Iraq,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.34,0:07:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are often motivated by profit-seeking corporations \Nwith high level government ties,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.98,0:07:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than by the democracy-spreading rationales \Ncommonly employed as justification.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.22,0:07:39.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Israeli military's record similarly shows
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.73,0:07:42.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that from its initial ethnic cleansing \Nproject undertaken in 1948,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.59,0:07:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when over 400 Palestinian villages were destroyed,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.93,0:07:48.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Israeli government has used military power\Nto forcibly settle the land it now occupies,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.63,0:07:52.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to remove, destroy, and erase \Nthe prior inhabitants wherever possible.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.51,0:07:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The recent outcry against these atrocities \Ncommitted by Israel on the inhabitants of Gaza,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.29,0:08:03.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as the Israeli military's brutal 2010 raid of \Nthe flotilla bound for Gaza to deliver aid,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.91,0:08:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have further drawn international attention.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.12,0:08:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Israel's increasing threats toward Iran are further \Nbuilding international opposition to Israeli militarism.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.36,0:08:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Despite the long-term critique Israeli militarism...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.31,0:08:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ inaudible ]
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.48,0:08:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...the U.S. and Israeli militarism specifically,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.20,0:08:25.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in many movements that define the American left,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.50,0:08:28.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the discourse about gay and lesbian soldiers \Nserving in the U.S. and Israeli militaries
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.77,0:08:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has garnered support from many people,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.74,0:08:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who otherwise oppose the wars \Nin Iraq and Afghanistan,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.54,0:08:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Israeli attacks on Gaza \Nin 2008, 2009 and 2012,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.51,0:08:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other highly publicized \NIsraeli and U.S. military activities.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.91,0:08:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Images of gay and lesbian service members \Nin uniform, holding hands and kissing,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.26,0:08:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in front of national flags,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.06,0:08:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have successfully stirred \Npatriotic and pro-military sentiment,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.06,0:08:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deadening critical thinking \Nabout patriotism and militarism,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.76,0:08:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by asserting such sentiments as a form \Nof sympathy for gay and lesbian people.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.55,0:08:58.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Similarly, long term left critiques \Nof marriage have been silenced
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.47,0:09:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the combination of relentless \Nright wing family values rhetoric,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.86,0:09:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the articulation of the desirability of \Nmarriage by same sex marriage advocacy -
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.21,0:09:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- messages long contested \Nby feminists and anti racists.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.30,0:09:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Such as, that children benefit \Nfrom being raised by married parents,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.13,0:09:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that married people are healthier,\Nand contribute more to society,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.48,0:09:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that marriage recognizes the most \Nimportant relationship people can have--
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.32,0:09:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are now mobilized \Nby same sex marriage advocates
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.04,0:09:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and judges writing decisions that are considered \Nvictories for same sex marriage advocacy.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.11,0:09:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These pro-marriage messages \Nare now articulated
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.62,0:09:34.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as anti-homophobic statements \Nin the arguments for same sex marriage.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.04,0:09:37.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Feminist, anti-racist \Nand anti-colonial movements
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.31,0:09:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have long worked to dismantle marriage,\Nand have identified rules about marriage
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.53,0:09:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as central to organizing \Nfoundational violences of the U.S.:
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.49,0:09:48.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slavery, settler colonialism, and genocide.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.37,0:09:50.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From the beginning, in the United States,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.59,0:09:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,marriage laws were key to organizing \Nwho is property and who can hold property.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.45,0:10:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Identifying Indigenous systems of gender and family \Nformation as backward and in need of intervention,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.12,0:10:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and enforcing colonial and gender family norms \Non Indigenous people
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.33,0:10:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been an important part of colonization.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.22,0:10:08.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Marriage has been an important technology \Nof land theft and ethnic cleansing,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.95,0:10:11.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aimed at disappearing Indigenous people\Nin many ways.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.66,0:10:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One way, one example,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.58,0:10:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the U.S. encouraged westward settlement \Nby promising male settlers 160 acres...
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.75,0:10:21.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to every male settler who would move west,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.23,0:10:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plus an extra 160 acres if he brings a wife.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.62,0:10:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Putting that kind of marriage \Nas a promotion for settlement
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.91,0:10:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,next to what the U.S. \Nwas simultaneously doing,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.66,0:10:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was criminalizing traditional \NIndigenous communal living styles.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.72,0:10:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, like, where I sometimes live in Seattle,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.44,0:10:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,y'know, like burning down longhouses \Nand forcing people not to live in those ways,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.65,0:10:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and eliminating communal land holding methods,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.44,0:10:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and enforcing male, individual ownership
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.80,0:10:58.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to facilitate displacing \NIndigenous people from their land.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.17,0:11:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in this way, management of \Ngender and family systems
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.13,0:11:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been essential to \Ndisplacement and settlement processes.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.92,0:11:13.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's also been essential to structuring slavery.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.27,0:11:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, denying the family ties of slaves \Nwas central to slavery,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.24,0:11:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ensuring that children would be born enslaved,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.48,0:11:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then later coercing marriage among newly freed \NBlack people after supposed emancipation,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.95,0:11:35.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and criminalizing them for adultery was one pathway \Nof re-capturing them into the convict lease system,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.29,0:11:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was the predecessor of today's \NU.S. mass imprisonment project
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.12,0:11:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that centrally targets Black and native people.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.50,0:11:52.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, marriage is still used to distribute essential \Nlife chances like health care and immigration status,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.78,0:11:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in ways that produce and maintain \Nenormous racial disparities.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.61,0:12:02.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, there are very few pathways \Nto immigration in the U.S.,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.09,0:12:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and those are focused on either your family,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.70,0:12:11.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if you don't have any family ties to the U.S. \Nit's much much harder to immigrate;
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.25,0:12:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or jobs, which of course, y'know, \Nis available to extremely few people.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.00,0:12:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we still get our health care through our jobs \Nand usually through family ties as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.21,0:12:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you don't have a partner or spouse \Nwho has healthcare, you can't get it.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.76,0:12:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And given the racialized distribution \Nof the most highly compensated jobs,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.92,0:12:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a really severe racial disparity in that \Nkind of family-based access to healthcare.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.84,0:12:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So obviously these are unjust ways to \Ngive out the essential things people need,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.17,0:12:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these kinds of marriage ties to basic needs \Ntraps people in violent family scenarios,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.03,0:13:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just causes most people to \Nhave no path to these necessities.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.65,0:13:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in this way marriage still structures racialized \Nsocial control through the family unit and family law.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.69,0:13:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And marriage has been specifically central to \Nanti-Black and anti-poor politics in the U.S.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.17,0:13:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a strong story \Nthat's been very prevalent in the U.S.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.81,0:13:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the reason people are poor is because they're \Nmorally flawed and they need to get married more.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.64,0:13:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So like in 1996 when \NPresident Clinton dismantled welfare,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.72,0:13:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the law that was passed is called the \N"Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act",
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.15,0:13:46.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can already hear the sort of racism \Nand anti-poor sentiment dripping off of that.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.44,0:13:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That law, y'know, all of its \Nfindings section is all about
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.46,0:13:54.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how the reason people are poor is \N'cause they don't marry enough,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.59,0:13:56.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how we have to get rid of this.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.100,0:14:00.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is based in, y'know, \Nreally racist sociology,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.41,0:14:03.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where one of the most famous \Ngovernment reports about this
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.09,0:14:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is called the Moynihan Report of the 1960's.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.88,0:14:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It kind of articulates this idea
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.26,0:14:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Black families were poor because \Nthey were pathologically female-headed.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.82,0:14:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this notion that family structure\Nis the problem with poor people,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.62,0:14:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and specifically with Black poor people,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.08,0:14:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been this very prevalent racist notion that's \Nstill very active in welfare policy in the U.S.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.88,0:14:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And both George Bush and Obama have had these... \Nspent millions of dollars on these
Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.02,0:14:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"healthy marriage" promotion projects \Nthat force poor people to marry,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.45,0:14:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that give you a financial incentive \Nif you're on welfare and you get married.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.08,0:14:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So all of this is about blaming poverty \Non the failure to marry,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.44,0:14:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the failure to have the state's idea \Nof a moral family structure.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.28,0:14:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anti-racists and feminists \Nhave sought to dismantle marriage,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.98,0:14:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,identifying the family as a place of violence,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.89,0:15:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the institution of marriage as a key form of social \Ncontrol of sexuality, racialized population control,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.79,0:15:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just not an OK way to distribute life chances, \Nthe basic stuff people need.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.22,0:15:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they've worked to make it easier \Nto get out of marriage.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.16,0:15:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a huge feminist legal project for years,\Nwas trying to make it easier to get a divorce,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.98,0:15:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because people couldn't get out of marriages\N'cause of the way American law structured divorce.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.77,0:15:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And feminists have also fought to explode \Nromance myths and family roles that trap people,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.27,0:15:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to disconnect marriage from vital resources.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.50,0:15:30.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's also been an enormous amount \Nof legal work in the U.S.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.61,0:15:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get rid of laws that disadvantage people if they \Nwere "illegitimate", if they had un-married parents.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.80,0:15:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause those laws, after it was \Nno longer explicitly permissible
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.36,0:15:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have laws that just excluded \NBlack people from certain opportunities,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.20,0:15:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those laws were the replacement.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.65,0:15:51.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So part of this as well is \Na whole history of anti-illegitimacy laws,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.90,0:15:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are really, like, pro-marriage laws \Nwith a penalty,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.54,0:15:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be used in really explicitly anti-Black ways.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.98,0:16:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like in the U.S., in Israel marriage law \Nalso plays a key role
Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.08,0:16:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in maintaining basic conditions of racialized \Nhierarchy necessary to settler colonialism.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.84,0:16:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This happens in a number of ways that are really \Nobvious parts of the ethnic cleansing project,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.27,0:16:19.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that seeks to win a demographic war \Nto ensure that Jews outnumber Arabs,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.55,0:16:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that a particular, narrow defined \Nkind of Jewish life is cultivated.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.04,0:16:28.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One very obvious example is that \Ncivil marriage does not exist in Israel.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.68,0:16:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So marriage between people of different religions,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.72,0:16:35.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or even between people who have different \Nmatrilineal or patrilineal Jewish heritage
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.99,0:16:38.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not allowed.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.41,0:16:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And hundreds of Israeli couples \Nfly to Cyprus every month to get married.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.86,0:16:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This approach to marriage overall \Nis contested by many Israelis
Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.72,0:16:51.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who see it as a threat to freedom of religion;
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.10,0:16:54.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it more broadly attests to the use of marriage \Nas a tool of population control
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.85,0:16:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aimed at settlement and population \Ndisplacement and replacement.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.10,0:17:02.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another prominent example is the \NCitizenship and Entry Into Israel Law,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.43,0:17:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the 2003 law that established that Palestinian \Ncitizens of the Occupied Territories
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.10,0:17:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who marry Israeli citizens \Ncannot acquire Israeli residency.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.32,0:17:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Israeli citizens who marry people \Nfrom other places
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.50,0:17:19.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,win family munification through their marriages.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.63,0:17:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their new spouses can come \Nand live with them in Israel.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.79,0:17:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since most of the Israeli citizens who marry\NPalestinians from the Occupied Territories
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.53,0:17:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are part of the 20% of Israeli citizens \Nwho are Palestinian,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.47,0:17:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this primarily means that the Palestinian families \Nare being divided by this 2003 law.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.26,0:17:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While Jewish people all over the world have \Nthe right to citizenship in Israel,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.14,0:17:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and... for immigration purposes interestingly,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.02,0:17:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the definition of Jewish enough is very broad,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.70,0:17:48.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the goal is to encourage settlement.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.41,0:17:52.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And others who marry Israeli citizens \Ncan acquire residency in Israel,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.20,0:17:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Palestinians in the Occupied Territories \Ncannot access residency status
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.39,0:17:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through their spouses in Israel.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.08,0:18:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this immigration policy \N--and immigration policy in Israel in general--
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.42,0:18:06.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is focused on prioritizing \Nimmigration of Jewish people,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.03,0:18:08.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a 3-track immigration system
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.35,0:18:12.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which prioritizes Jewish immigration \Nwith immediate and automatic citizenship,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.55,0:18:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,places non-Jewish foreign immigration second,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.00,0:18:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a multi-year process for \Ngaining residency or citizenship,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.80,0:18:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and provides a 3rd track for spouses \Nof Palestinian citizens of Israel,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.95,0:18:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as long as they are not residents \Nof the Occupied Territories
Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.59,0:18:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or states that Israel has declared enemy states.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.06,0:18:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unequal marital privileges are part of the \Nethnic cleansing project of the state of Israel,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.51,0:18:35.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and impact thousands of families,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.93,0:18:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maintaining forced separations,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.98,0:18:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depriving Palestinian citizens of Israel of access \Nto state resources for their families,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.55,0:18:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are available to Jewish citizens of Israel;
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.46,0:18:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and restricting movement for Palestinians.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.50,0:18:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Clearly, increased access to Israel's \Nmarriage regime for same sex couples
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.45,0:18:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not change or reform \Nthe fundamental role of Israeli marriage law,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.92,0:19:01.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in enforcing occupation and state-sponsored racism.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.59,0:19:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lesbian and gay Palestinian citizens of Israel
Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.40,0:19:08.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose partners are from the Occupied Territories \Nface the same restrictions as straight people do.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.25,0:19:13.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does it mean to recognize... to get to \Nseek recognition in a marriage system
Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.41,0:19:17.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overtly created to forward \Nan ethnic cleansing process?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.05,0:19:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does it mean to declare such recognition \Nas a victory for equality
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.33,0:19:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or evidence of enlightened human rights policy?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.58,0:19:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ MC interrupts to ask ] Dean, could we have \Nit wrap up in about 5 minutes or so?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.58,0:19:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Dean Spade ] Oh, much sooner than that!
Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.00,0:19:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ MC ] Oh, sorry, carry on!
Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.27,0:19:36.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Dean Spade ] Thank you... I'm sorry that\Nour technical issues have made me so slow.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.07,0:19:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just have one more paragraph. [ laughs ]
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.48,0:19:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The intensifying discourse \Nof Israeli human rights leadership
Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.15,0:19:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buoyed by same sex marriage and LGB \N--and in Israel T-- military service,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.19,0:19:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brings to the surface in new ways ongoing tensions \Nin queer and trans politics,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.30,0:19:59.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about efforts at inclusion \Nin central state institutions and systems.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.23,0:20:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The demands of marriage and military participation
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.26,0:20:06.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not only far from fulfilling feminist,\Nqueer, trans and anti-racist imaginings
Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.97,0:20:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of sexual and gender liberation,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.61,0:20:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but must also be analyzed as methods \Nof justifying and sustaining and expanding
Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.00,0:20:16.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,colonial and imperial violence.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.78,0:20:19.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not surprising that these demands \Nhave risen to the surface,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.88,0:20:22.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and drowned out other images \Nof gender and sexual liberation
Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.54,0:20:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in corporate media owned and dominated
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.26,0:20:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by those who have invented and executed \Nthe war on terror,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:27.95,0:20:32.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also the same people who don't mind \Ndeveloping new markets for wedding day creation.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.14,0:20:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same media that has, y'know, \N24 hours a day on TV in the United States,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.84,0:20:42.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shows about buying wedding dresses,\Nand shows about how cops are great and stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.21,0:20:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The context... and y'know, movies about \Nhow the U.S. military is amazing...
Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.65,0:20:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this context in the U.S. has created ready \Nand willing audiences for Israeli pinkwashing,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.55,0:20:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is dearly needed as more and more of the \Nworld names conditions in Israel as apartheid,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.89,0:21:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it becomes more and more essential to maintain \NU.S. financial support for Israeli military violence.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.12,0:21:11.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's become commonplace to convince straight people \N--as well as many queer people,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.57,0:21:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amazingly, even those who would say \Nthey are anti-war--
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.47,0:21:19.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that our liberation is about becoming soldiers \Nand spouses, recuperating oppressive structures
Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.19,0:21:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by putting a gay flag on them\Nand saying they are good for gays.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.92,0:21:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would argue that centuries of feminist,\Nanti-colonial, and anti-racist resistance
Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.83,0:21:30.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have proven that marriage and the military\Nare not good for anyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.23,0:21:33.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today's anti-pinkwashing activists are encouraging
Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.67,0:21:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those invested in resisting sexual, gender, and family\Nformation norms, to develop discernment,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.56,0:21:45.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not asking just "can we be included in existing \Nstructures?", but "what are those structures?"
Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.100,0:21:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if it's a prison cell, a cop, a tank, a wall, \Na border, a soldier, or a state family formation norm,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.16,0:21:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can wrap it in a rainbow flag all you want,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:57.02,0:21:59.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it still won't be anti-homophobic,\Nfeminist or liberating.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.85,0:22:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have to ask: "can you have a movement \Nfor sexual liberation or gender liberation
Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.45,0:22:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that does not contest colonization,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.68,0:22:11.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially when sexual and family regulation \Nis a central tool of colonization?"
Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.09,0:22:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wonder, will contemporary \Ngay rights frameworks be remembered
Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.30,0:22:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as pro-war, pro-military, and pro-apartheid?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.68,0:22:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's all. [ audience claps ]
Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.92,0:22:28.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Isabel Krupp, Queers Against Israeli Apartheid,\NAKA QuAIA ]
Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.35,0:22:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name's Isabel Krupp,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.30,0:22:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm a member of Queers Against \NIsraeli Apartheid, Vancouver,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.64,0:22:35.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I'll refer to as QuAIA from now on,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.83,0:22:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just so I don't trip over my own tongue \Nwhile I'm speaking.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.56,0:22:45.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd like to begin by acknowledging that we're on \Nun-ceded and occupied Coast Salish Territories,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.38,0:22:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the territories of the Musqueam, Squamish, \NStó:lō and Tsleil-Waututh peoples.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.00,0:22:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this acknowledgement of the ongoing occupation\Nand colonization of this land, of Turtle Island,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.58,0:22:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is foundational to all of the work that QuAIA does.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.54,0:23:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, recognizing the ongoing \Nimpacts of settler colonialism,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.84,0:23:09.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and working in solidarity with Indigenous movements\Nfor sovereignty and decolonization,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.53,0:23:12.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is really what QuAIA is all about.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.71,0:23:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're a Palestine solidarity organization,\Nwe work in solidarity with Palestinian movements
Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.86,0:23:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for sovereignty and against Israeli \Napartheid, occupation, and colonization.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.30,0:23:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's really important for us
Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.68,0:23:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to recognize how Canada and Israel \Nbolster each other’s colonial occupations,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.11,0:23:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both ideologically and materially, through \Npolitical, military, and economic support.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.49,0:23:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'd like to point out that Canada is one of the \Nkey supporters of Israel in the world right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.27,0:23:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if we want to effectively fight \Nagainst Israeli apartheid and occupation,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.76,0:23:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need also to come out against \Nsettler-colonialism here in Canada.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.34,0:24:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So for folks who would like to explore \Nthese connections further,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.72,0:24:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is a brilliant paper by Dana Olwan and Mike \NKrebs on the topic, which I highly recommend.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.18,0:24:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I've already used the phrase \N“Israeli apartheid” several times.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.18,0:24:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I know that's something that Dean has talked \Nabout so I'm going to try not to overlap too much,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.92,0:24:19.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I imagine that some folks in the audience
Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.77,0:24:22.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aren't as familiar with a critical perspective\Non the Israeli state.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.100,0:24:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I won't have time to get into like \Nan Israeli Apartheid 101 today,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.95,0:24:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I encourage those less familiar with this topic \Nto seek out critical resources,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.97,0:24:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which QuAIA would be happy to help provide.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.18,0:24:40.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I will describe very briefly what I mean \Nwhen I say Israeli apartheid.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.12,0:24:45.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm talking about Palestinians in the West Bank \Nwho live under a brutal military occupation,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.39,0:24:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which takes the form of illegal Israeli settlements,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.54,0:24:55.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,checkpoints, and a system of walls, barriers, \Nand roads accessible solely to Israeli settlers.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.61,0:24:59.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm talking about Palestinians living in Israel \Nwho face discriminatory policies.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.98,0:25:04.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like Dean was talking about a little bit, \Ncurrently there are over 25 laws
Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.35,0:25:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which target them specifically as non-Jewish \Nand reduce them to second class citizens.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.16,0:25:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm talking about Palestinians in the diaspora \Nand in UN-administered refugee camps
Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.41,0:25:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are by default denied their UN-sanctioned \Nright to return to their lands.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.86,0:25:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm talking about over 1.8 million \NPalestinians in the Gaza Strip
Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.16,0:25:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are living in an open air prison \Nunder an illegal siege,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.00,0:25:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,described by international experts \Nas a "slow genocide".
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.94,0:25:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So again, I encourage anyone surprised by what \NI am saying or what Dean was talking about
Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.90,0:25:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to seek out critical resources and particularly \Nto seek out Palestinian perspectives.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.54,0:25:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, there is a growing international movement \N– led by Palestinians –
Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.65,0:25:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against Israeli apartheid and occupation.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.19,0:25:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In response, Israel's launched an aggressive well \Nfunded PR campaign that Dean was talking about
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.66,0:26:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to market itself as an oasis of tolerance \Nin the Middle East,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.35,0:26:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as this modern liberal democratic state –
Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.40,0:26:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specifically, the only democracy \Nin the Middle East, right? –
Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.32,0:26:09.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to obscure its status \Nas an apartheid state.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.81,0:26:12.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think it's important to point out \Nthat the implication here
Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.100,0:26:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that Israel needs to practice apartheid,\Ncolonialism, and genocide
Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.85,0:26:26.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to preserve these freedoms and democracy \Nand rights for gays and lesbians, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.43,0:26:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause like Dean was describing, gay rights \Ndiscourse is a big piece of this PR campaign –
Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.04,0:26:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Israel is working really hard to brand itself \Nas the only gay-friendly country
Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.99,0:26:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in what they frame as an otherwise \Nhostile and homophobic region.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.76,0:26:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we can see really clearly how this plays into \Nracist, imperialist, and orientalist ideas
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.48,0:26:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around the “West” as modern and civilized \Nand the “East” as barbaric and backwards, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.92,0:26:58.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this practice of appropriating \Nthe struggle for gay rights discourse
Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.73,0:27:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to obscure, excuse, or justify state violence \Nis called “pinkwashing”.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.64,0:27:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Dean made that very clear... \N
Dialogue: 0,0:27:05.76,0:27:08.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this practice, I'd like to point out, \Nis not unique to Israel.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.89,0:27:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the Canadian context, we see an example of this
Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.52,0:27:17.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we look at the re-branding of the tar sands \Nand this idea, this myth of “ethical oil”, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.79,0:27:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In opposition to so-called “conflict oil” that \Ncomes from countries like Saudi Arabia,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.20,0:27:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are again constructed through \Nracist narratives as exceptionally homophobic.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:27.91,0:27:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So one of the things that \Nthis practice of pinkwashing erases
Dialogue: 0,0:27:32.43,0:27:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is how state violence, including colonialism \Nand apartheid, impacts all Palestinians,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:38.79,0:27:42.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,queer and straight, trans and cis.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.13,0:27:45.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“There is no pink door in the apartheid wall” right?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.33,0:27:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We hear this phrase, this slogan \Nin anti-pinkwashing activism,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.64,0:27:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“There is no pink door in the apartheid wall”.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.40,0:27:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of these supposed rights and freedoms \Nof “gay! friendly! Israel!”,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.18,0:28:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't extend to Palestinians.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.84,0:28:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as much as the Israeli state \Ndecries Palestinian homophobia,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.48,0:28:09.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its regime of apartheid and occupation \Ncreates challenges and barriers
Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.59,0:28:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for queer and trans Palestinians organizing \Nagainst homophobia and transphobia.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.57,0:28:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm gonna, I'm gonna read a little quote \Nfrom a Palestinian queer organization,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.96,0:28:27.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Palestinian Queers for Boycott, Divestment, \Nand Sanctions. And they say:
Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.39,0:28:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}“As Palestinian queers, our struggle is not only \Nagainst social injustice{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.38,0:28:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}and our rights as a queer minority \Nin Palestinian society,{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.04,0:28:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1} but rather, our main struggle is one against \NIsrael's colonization, occupation and apartheid;{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.94,0:28:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}a system that has oppressed us \Nfor the past 63 years"{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.69,0:28:50.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's Palestinian Queers for BDS.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.03,0:28:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think this statement makes a lot of sense
Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.57,0:28:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we think about how social movements \Nfor gender and sexual freedom
Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.70,0:29:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are contingent on freedom from the daily violence \Nof colonization, occupation, and apartheid.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.00,0:29:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also want to acknowledge that these social\Nmovements are alive and well in Palestine,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.60,0:29:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and several members of QuAIA Vancouver
Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.48,0:29:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were able to meet a number of amazing Palestinian \Nqueer and trans activists at the recent
Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.20,0:29:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,World Social Forum "Free Palestine" in Brazil, \Nwhich included a Queer Visions stream.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.98,0:29:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Queers Against Israeli Apartheid is one of \Na growing number of queer activist groups
Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.12,0:29:28.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working to resist the pinkwashing of Israeli apartheid.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.27,0:29:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as queers and trans folks, we have the power \Nto interrupt this practice of pinkwashing.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.24,0:29:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we come out against Israeli apartheid, \Nwe interfere with the myth-making that's vital
Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.19,0:29:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to letting Israel get away with apartheid, colonialism, \Nand other forms state violence.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:47.22,0:29:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, to give some background on QuAIA Vancouver:
Dialogue: 0,0:29:50.04,0:29:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's been a QuAIA presence in the Vancouver \NPride Parade for the past several years,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.00,0:29:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I attended but personally \Nwasn't involved in organizing,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.88,0:30:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I want to recognize that work that took place;
Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.66,0:30:06.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the current iteration of QuAIA Vancouver \Ncame together just last summer
Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.100,0:30:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in response to 2 Israeli-funded films that were \Nbeing screened at the Vancouver Queer Film Festival.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.60,0:30:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were called “Joe + Belle” and “Invisible Men”.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:15.61,0:30:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in response to the screening of these films, \Nwe came together under the banner of QuAIA
Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.10,0:30:28.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to call on the Queer Film Festival to come out in \Nsolidarity with Palestinian queers and trans folks,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.69,0:30:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ultimately, to challenge pinkwashing
Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.66,0:30:38.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by honouring the cultural boycott of Israel \Nfor future seasons of the Festival.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.73,0:30:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So for those of you who aren't familiar \Nwith the idea of cultural boycott --
Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.99,0:30:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dean mentioned BDS.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.22,0:30:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in 2005, Palestinian civil society \Nlaunched a global movement
Dialogue: 0,0:30:48.95,0:30:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for boycott, divestment, and sanctions against Israel, \Nwhich we call BDS.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.20,0:30:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this includes economic boycotts, \Ndivestment, sanctions advocacy,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.98,0:31:00.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also a cultural and academic boycott,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.01,0:31:04.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which targets cultural institutions, \Nprojects, and events
Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.81,0:31:09.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that continue to serve the purposes of \Nthe Israeli colonial and apartheid regime.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.79,0:31:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I want to be clear that cultural boycott doesn't \Ntarget artists or filmmakers based on nationality,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.10,0:31:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but rather targets officially sponsored voices \Nthat serve the interests of apartheid.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.33,0:31:26.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in this context, we felt and we feel that it \Nis very important to call on our queer institutions,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.17,0:31:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the Vancouver Queer Film Festival
Dialogue: 0,0:31:29.94,0:31:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come out against the Israeli apartheid regime,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.99,0:31:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if this queer film festival, \Nif this is a queer film festival,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.75,0:31:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it belongs to all of us, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.54,0:31:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Including any Palestinian and Arab queers \Nand queers of colour
Dialogue: 0,0:31:45.25,0:31:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who may feel alienated from a festival that aligns \Nitself with institutional advocates for apartheid.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.76,0:31:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So as the Festival gears up again this Spring, \Nwe're going to be organizing to make this happen,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:57.22,0:32:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to call on the Vancouver Queer Film Festival
Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.43,0:32:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come out in support of \NPalestinian queer and trans folks.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.00,0:32:07.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in the coming months, \Nwe'll need community support.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.81,0:32:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we want encourage everybody here today \Nto sign up for our email list,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:11.30,0:32:14.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which, there's a signup list at the back of the room,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.75,0:32:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to like us on Facebook if you're on there \N[ laughter ],
Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.91,0:32:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and most importantly to come out \Nto future events and actions.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.85,0:32:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if we want to \Nhold our institutions accountable,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.28,0:32:28.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need to show them \Nthat we care about this, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.63,0:32:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah, because apartheid is a queer issue
Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.78,0:32:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- it's not only a queer issue \Nbut clearly it's a queer issue -
Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.85,0:32:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as queers and trans folks \Ni think our role in this struggle is clear:
Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.64,0:32:46.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no pride in apartheid! \N[ audience cheers ]
Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.43,0:32:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Anna Soole, Social Justice \N& Decolonization Facilitator ]
Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.50,0:32:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you Isabel, that was a great ending.\NI liked that little...
Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.96,0:32:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, first I want to say thank you \Nto Dean and Isabel for what you said,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.74,0:33:00.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I want to say thank you \Nto Harsha for what you're gonna say,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:00.10,0:33:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and SFPIRG for having us.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.14,0:33:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want to acknowledge that we are on \Ntraditional Coast Salish territory.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:05.02,0:33:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that I am... so... my name is Anna Soole,\Nand I'm Métis.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.82,0:33:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm Cree, Ojibwe, Apache, Algonquin and Lakota, \Nand I'm also French, Celtic, Dutch and German.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.32,0:33:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a lot of things to remember.\NI'm kind of like a Heinz 57...
Dialogue: 0,0:33:22.50,0:33:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so [ laughs ] I'm gonna be speaking\Nto my own personal experience,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:26.88,0:33:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than... I'm not an academic,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.48,0:33:34.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so my framework is much more \Ncultural and from my own perspective.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.75,0:33:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm gonna share some stories,\Nand I'm gonna share a little bit about who I am
Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.82,0:33:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how what we're talking about today \Nhas impacted me as an Indigenous woman.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:41.82,0:33:45.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, before I do...
Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.39,0:33:49.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the things in the work that I do\N-I do decolonization work-
Dialogue: 0,0:33:49.94,0:33:54.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the things that's really important to me\Nis acknowledge the space that we're in.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:54.57,0:33:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the space that we're in is what?
Dialogue: 0,0:33:57.98,0:34:00.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just call it out, what do you see?
Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.79,0:34:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Concrete!\NWhat else?
Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.13,0:34:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rows! Exactly!
Dialogue: 0,0:34:07.80,0:34:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we're in a space that is \Nspecifically a settler space.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.24,0:34:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I just want to acknowledge that \Nwe're talking about decolonization,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.62,0:34:19.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're talking about colonialism, settler colonialism,\Ninside a settler space.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.93,0:34:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in my culture, does anybody know \Nhow we would be set up?
Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.96,0:34:27.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a circle.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.100,0:34:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so a circle keeps us accountable to each other,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.08,0:34:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I often have a lot of conflict \Nabout sitting on a panel,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:34.64,0:34:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I feel uncomfortable \Nwith a table between me and a group.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.61,0:34:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel uncomfortable being the voice, \Nwhen there's so much knowledge in a room.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.38,0:34:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I just want to acknowledge that,\Nand my own conflict with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.96,0:34:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And acknowledge ways... maybe in the future... \Nmaybe how can we look at that as a group,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.13,0:34:58.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people that are here,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.14,0:35:01.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how can we look at that and changing these systems \Nthat we're inside of even in this moment?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.97,0:35:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Um...
Dialogue: 0,0:35:05.57,0:35:09.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, just about me, I wanna acknowledge...
Dialogue: 0,0:35:09.34,0:35:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm from a working class, Métis family,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.64,0:35:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm personally, financially, somewhat precarious,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:15.29,0:35:18.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,queer, and I have no high school diploma.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.45,0:35:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I present as a white, straight, middle class,\Neducated and employable person,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:24.27,0:35:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I carry a level of privilege that my contemporaries \Nwho wear their station more visibly
Dialogue: 0,0:35:29.44,0:35:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't necessarily have access to.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:32.20,0:35:36.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that is specifically related to \Nmy experience as an Indigenous woman,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.97,0:35:40.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because when Dean was talking about marriage,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:40.67,0:35:45.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was the topic that struck me the most, \Nthat I wanted to speak to the most.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.86,0:35:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Talking about marriage and colonialism\Nin my family,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.39,0:35:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both of my grandmothers are Indigenous,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:52.54,0:35:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they both went to day school,\Nwhich is a lot like residential school,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.32,0:36:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of my grandmothers ran away when she \Nwas 12 years old from Quebec to Vancouver;
Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.34,0:36:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my other grandmother, \Nher whole family left Edmonton,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.02,0:36:09.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we were well-established, well-known,\Nactivist family that had everything stolen from us,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.73,0:36:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the University of Alberta \Nis now built on our homestead.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.47,0:36:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So everybody came here, and both of my \Ngrandmothers out of survival married white men.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:19.79,0:36:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I, every single day of my life,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.54,0:36:27.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walk through the world carrying \Nthe legacy of colonization on my skin.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.15,0:36:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I carry a privilege that was designed,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:33.02,0:36:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the design was for me to not identify \Nas an Indigenous person.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.51,0:36:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it's a radical act \Nfor me to never identify as white.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.24,0:36:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Although I recognize my white privilege, \NI identify as genocide white.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.54,0:36:50.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my friend D. Williams, she was talking about \Nthis concept of genocide white --
Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.18,0:36:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or genocide brown depending on the experience-
Dialogue: 0,0:36:53.65,0:36:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for me that makes sense, because the reason \Nmy skin is white is because of genocide.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.82,0:37:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it's a complicated experience for me\N[ laughs ] to say the least.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:03.39,0:37:10.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Indigenous women married white men,\Nthey lost any status they might have.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.27,0:37:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Métis women actually didn't have any \Nstatus until the 80's --
Dialogue: 0,0:37:14.10,0:37:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually we didn't have any status until this month \N[ laughs ] We have status now.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:22.14,0:37:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we had was citizenship in the 80's,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:25.76,0:37:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so my grandmothers, they made their choices \Naccording to that history. And it impacted my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:33.72,0:37:40.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It impacted abuse that was in my family and in my, \Nand in my own... on my own personal body.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:40.59,0:37:44.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, uh, I carry that with me every day.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.47,0:37:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I wanna... I just wanna read my notes because...
Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.99,0:37:52.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's nerve-wracking to \Ntalk in front of a bunch of people
Dialogue: 0,0:37:52.90,0:37:56.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially when you're not in a circle!\N[ laughs ] It's really nerve-wracking!
Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.15,0:37:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm just gonna look at my notes...\NOK so the next thing I wanted to touch on
Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.50,0:38:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that I was raised by a single mother,\Nshe never got married,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:04.47,0:38:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I never thought about marriage growing up.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:08.04,0:38:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't something that like a lot of girls \Nin particular, people who are raised as girls,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:12.92,0:38:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are expected to think about their wedding day.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:16.36,0:38:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a lot of pressure, socialization \Nto think about your wedding day,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.79,0:38:22.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about what it's gonna be like to get married,\Nplan on getting married... I never had that.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:22.93,0:38:26.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my experience was actually \Nthat my mother was... was really...
Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.29,0:38:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she really didn't want me to get married.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:30.97,0:38:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... but I also saw the other side of it,\Nwhich was that my mother was a single mother,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.54,0:38:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she didn't have access to a lot of the things \Nthat my friends had access to, my friends parents.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:42.55,0:38:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mom couldn't get a loan \Nwithout a man in the 80's, and so
Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.28,0:38:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were very poor for a long period of time until \Nmy mother joined the system, worked for the city,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:46.72,0:38:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and literally broke her back working for \Nher whole life so that we could survive.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.10,0:38:59.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's a complicated system.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.49,0:39:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason we get... a lot of people feel \Nthe pressure to get married,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:03.44,0:39:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is because the structure that we live inside \Ndoesn't support not being married.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.99,0:39:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, what I wanted to sorta think about \Nor get people thinking about is
Dialogue: 0,0:39:12.05,0:39:17.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you only have 1 concept of what is possible,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:17.62,0:39:20.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of course you're gonna want to \Nlive inside that concept.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:20.87,0:39:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the paradox of human agency, speaks to the \Nidea that people's choices are never straightforward.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.18,0:39:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The context of our present particular times \Nand places, constraints and possibility,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:31.57,0:39:37.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shape not only our choices,\Nbut even what we can imagine for ourselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.67,0:39:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So right now the queer community, especially in \Nthe U.S., because in Canada we have marriage rights,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:42.80,0:39:47.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the U.S. the queer community\Nis trying to fit inside a structure
Dialogue: 0,0:39:47.13,0:39:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is the only structure \Nthat people can comprehend.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.18,0:39:57.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if there's only one structure, \Npeople are not going to be able to...
Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.71,0:40:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if there's only one possibility, \Nif it seems like there's only one possibility,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:03.46,0:40:07.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people aren't necessarily going to be able to create \Nthe world that they would want for themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:40:07.64,0:40:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a different system.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:11.05,0:40:14.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, uh, this is not just a... this is also about \Nthe politics of identity.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:14.59,0:40:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about the politics of union, \Nand it's about the politics of family,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.26,0:40:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if I'm gonna grow up \Nand become an old woman,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:21.91,0:40:27.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not have a family to take care of me,\NI'm basically going to be living in poverty.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:27.82,0:40:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, there's a lot of pressure on me\Nas a woman, to have children.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.32,0:40:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's a lot of pressure on me as a woman, \Nto have children, and be in a couple,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.30,0:40:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a specific kind of couple, with a romantic partner, \Npreferably a male, a cisgendered male.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:44.38,0:40:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's all of these pressures \Nthat I'm expected to live inside of,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.63,0:40:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, yes I want to have children, but I don't want \Nto have that pressure or that expectation,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:53.14,0:40:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want it to be coming \Nfrom the fear of ending up alone.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.52,0:40:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So...
Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.73,0:41:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have an excerpt from an article that I wrote \Nabout whether or not I wanted to be a mother...
Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.16,0:41:13.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you! It's perfect, it's how I wanted to end...
Dialogue: 0,0:41:13.41,0:41:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So... the dominant culture has come to view \Nfamily as a small scale, intensely private unit.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:19.54,0:41:24.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a healthy, traditional aboriginal community,\Na child doesn't have just one mother.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:24.89,0:41:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She has aunties, cousins, sisters, \Ngrandmas, and family friends.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:29.20,0:41:33.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often, a biological mother is not \Nthe most significant female in the child's life,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:33.49,0:41:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is not viewed as neglectful, as child psych-\Nologist Dr. John Bowlby would have had us believe
Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.93,0:41:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he said mid 20th century, when he mid \N20th century coined the term "maternal deprivation".
Dialogue: 0,0:41:46.22,0:41:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, it would be quite the opposite.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:49.63,0:41:53.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The child has so many caregivers \Nin an aboriginal community --
Dialogue: 0,0:41:53.05,0:41:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a traditional prior to colonization \Naboriginal community--
Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.58,0:41:59.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she is able to connect with and bond \Nto the women, men, or Two-Spirited people,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:59.83,0:42:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are right for her at that time in her growth.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.44,0:42:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Previous bonds with other women aren't lost or bro-\Nken but maintained and evolved as the child evolves.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:07.90,0:42:12.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This works because the well-being of the family \Ncommunity is valued above the individual,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:12.67,0:42:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas in contemporary settler colonial culture,\Nthe individual is valued above the whole.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.86,0:42:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bowlby's legacy has clearly entered \Nthe dominant ideology of motherhood.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.94,0:42:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The requirement is that the individual mother should \Nhave total responsibility for her own children at all times.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.56,0:42:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This has informed the decisions of colonizers \Nto remove children
Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.02,0:42:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from these traditional Indigenous family situations,\Nwhich we saw in the 60's Scoop,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.76,0:42:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was taking Indigenous children out of their \Nhomes and putting them into foster homes,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:42.36,0:42:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's still happening to this day.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:45.32,0:42:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Indigenous children are taken \Nout of their homes and put in foster homes
Dialogue: 0,0:42:48.66,0:42:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than any other children in Canada.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.88,0:42:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... lost my place...
Dialogue: 0,0:42:56.11,0:43:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...because the ethic of domination \Nhas been used to corrupt, violate,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:00.67,0:43:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and attempt to destroy these traditions \Nthrough privatization of the family,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.97,0:43:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's often challenging for the individualistic culture \Nof the colonized and colonizers
Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.47,0:43:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand or see the merits \Nin multi-shared child rearing.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.02,0:43:19.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In my ideal world, an interdependent community \Nof peaceful, practical, creative, spiritual people,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:19.80,0:43:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working together to respect and tend to the earth,\Nand each other,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.44,0:43:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sharing responsibility for each other's well-being, \Nand the well-being of the children,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:28.57,0:43:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether a mother is single or attached\Nis irrelevant,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:32.40,0:43:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the child has many dedicated, \Nloving role models of every gender,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:35.50,0:43:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are positively engaged \Nin every aspect of the child's life.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:38.86,0:43:42.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Prospective parents make informed decisions \Nabout when and whether to have children,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.44,0:43:45.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and access to birth control is unquestioned.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.15,0:43:49.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The elderly are cared for by the whole community,\Nregardless of their blood ties,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:49.31,0:43:52.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all community members basic needs are met.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:52.71,0:43:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some might label these values as anti-racist,\Neco-feminist, with socialist leanings...
Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.33,0:44:00.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I prefer the title Indigenous Feminist,\Nand I wear that with pride.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.74,0:44:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have one final thing, because I only have prob-\Nably one minute left. I found this on Facebook today.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:08.99,0:44:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ whispers to a fellow panelist ] Would you be willing \Nto hold this up? Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.32,0:44:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll describe it for people who...\Nwho can't see it.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:17.75,0:44:21.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it's a series of three circles at the bottom.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:21.53,0:44:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The 1st circle has a series of multiple blue circles \Nin it, and outside is multicoloured circles.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.60,0:44:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is labeled as "Exclusion".
Dialogue: 0,0:44:32.18,0:44:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So all around the border of the circle \Nhas the multicoloured circles.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:36.16,0:44:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The 2nd circle has the blue circles in the centre, \Nand a smaller circle on the outside.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:41.38,0:44:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's got all the multicoloured circles in it.\NLabeled as "Segregation".
Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.32,0:44:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The 3rd circle has blue circles inside of it, and \Nanother circle inside of it with multicoloured circles.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:53.56,0:44:56.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's called "Integration".
Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.62,0:45:01.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The final circle has all the circles, \Nblue and multicoloured, inside of it,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:01.57,0:45:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which changes the entire \Nformation of what it looks like.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:05.37,0:45:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's called "Inclusion".
Dialogue: 0,0:45:07.33,0:45:13.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've worked in many non-Indigenous \Norganizations as an Indigenous person,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.29,0:45:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's... of course I'm the Indigenous person \Nwho looks white, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:18.20,0:45:21.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I get hired because I look like everybody else, \Nand I can easily fit into white culture.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.95,0:45:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or so people think until they know me.\N[ laughs ]
Dialogue: 0,0:45:24.62,0:45:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, what we're talking about here is \Nliterally changing the structure of society.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:31.20,0:45:38.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, not changing, not getting queer people to \Nbe able to get married and join the military,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.03,0:45:40.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what we're talking about \Nis getting rid of the military.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.87,0:45:47.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Changing the ideas of marriage. Changing our \Nideas of what partnership and family looks like.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.31,0:45:48.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.\N[ applause ]
Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.44,0:45:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Harsha Walia, No One Is Illegal ]
Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.43,0:46:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was it! [ audience laughter ]\NThat visual's incredible.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:01.10,0:46:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you to the organizers \Nand thank everyone for being here,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.43,0:46:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you Dean and Isabel and Anna\Nfor really amazing presentations.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.36,0:46:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to start by acknowledging that we're on \Nun-ceded, occupied, Coast Salish territories,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:14.08,0:46:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lands of the Musqueam, Tsleil Waututh, \NSquamish and Stó:lō people.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.68,0:46:21.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also too, as other speakers mentioned, \Nto really understand in a deep way what it means
Dialogue: 0,0:46:21.46,0:46:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to root our work\Nwithin an anti-colonial framework,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:24.49,0:46:30.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what it means to really truly be in alliance with \NIndigenous struggles against settler colonialism.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:30.69,0:46:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And everything that that means, right?\NIt means multiple things.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:34.79,0:46:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means fighting in defense of the land,\Nit means fighting violence against women,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.38,0:46:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it means fighting against prisons and police,\Nand the military,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.68,0:46:45.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of the aspects of settler colonialism\Nthat seep into our lives and our societies,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:45.89,0:46:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the ways in which we live here on Turtle Island.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:50.12,0:46:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanna pick up where folks were kinda left off,\Nand what people were talking about...
Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.86,0:46:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and particularly some of the stuff \Nthat Dean was talking about
Dialogue: 0,0:46:59.86,0:47:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of the co-optation of \Nqueer and trans liberation movements
Dialogue: 0,0:47:03.39,0:47:06.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as women of colour movements,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:06.05,0:47:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly for imperial, capitalist, \Nand colonial ambitions.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:10.52,0:47:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And particularly to talk about that in the intersection \Nof immigration, both historically and currently.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.82,0:47:18.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Y'know, first I do want to say \Nthat it's not new, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:18.85,0:47:21.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's this kind of new framework \Nthat's been developing,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:21.83,0:47:26.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly with homonationalism when we talk \Nabout it, or pinkwashing when we talk about it,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:26.61,0:47:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I really think it's important to understand \Nthat this recent branding has a long legacy
Dialogue: 0,0:47:30.47,0:47:33.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and has a long history in terms of colonial politics.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:33.94,0:47:39.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And y'know in particular colonialism has \Nalways cast people of colour communities
Dialogue: 0,0:47:39.17,0:47:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as barbaric, and savage, and backwards,\Nas you were mentioning Isabel.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:43.25,0:47:45.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is not new, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:45.95,0:47:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The kind of gay-saving rhetoric \Nand the ideology of it is also not new.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:49.36,0:47:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm gonna give some historic examples of that.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:52.56,0:47:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most people think that that is a recent kind of...
Dialogue: 0,0:47:56.90,0:48:02.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a recent evolution of y'know "save the women!"\N[ laughs ] but they've both always worked together.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.51,0:48:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the kind of "save 3rd world women", "save \Nwomen of colour" and y'know, "save 3rd world gays",
Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.42,0:48:12.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have always been attendant processes of colo-\Nnialism, and have always been part of that project.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.97,0:48:17.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the thing that is most deeply \Noffensive and ironic about that of course
Dialogue: 0,0:48:17.27,0:48:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that colonialism itself has imposed \Nthe most hetero-normative, patriarchal system
Dialogue: 0,0:48:21.37,0:48:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on communities of colour, right?\NParticularly through the Victorian era.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.42,0:48:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have this simultaneous \Nkind of rhetoric and discourse
Dialogue: 0,0:48:28.48,0:48:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of saving communities of colour, while at the \Nsame time imposing the most rigid and oppressive
Dialogue: 0,0:48:34.45,0:48:37.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family and community and societal structures\Non our communities, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:48:37.95,0:48:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, there's nothing kind of new about this.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:41.42,0:48:45.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I want to look at some examples, \Nparticularly through a lens of immigration.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:45.62,0:48:49.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's of course y'know a lot \Nof conversation that we've had,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.83,0:48:53.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isabel laid out a lot of amazing history \Nin terms of pinkwashing,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.93,0:48:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dean also talked about it \Nin the context of pinkwashing,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:56.68,0:48:59.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also the examples as we know of course \Nof the occupation of Afghanistan,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:59.35,0:49:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where, y'know, the entire rhetoric of occupation \Nand colonialism both locally and globally
Dialogue: 0,0:49:03.97,0:49:08.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been rooted in this white saviour \Nindustrial complex if you will,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:08.09,0:49:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I also want to look at it through the lens \Nof immigration, which isn't often talked about,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:13.34,0:49:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the ways in which state controls and border \Ncontrols are operating through these ways as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:19.10,0:49:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, y'know, a lot of people here probably know \Nabout the Komagata Maru, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:22.50,0:49:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the Komagata Maru was the ship in 1914 \Nthat turned, that was turned away
Dialogue: 0,0:49:27.91,0:49:31.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-376 predominantly Punjabi immigrants-
Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.39,0:49:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was turned away from the shores of \NBritish Columbia, here on the west coast.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:36.30,0:49:42.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And y'know, that's known as a very obvious \Nexample of anti-migrant history in Canada.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.61,0:49:48.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Y'know, the Tory government recently made \Nan apology -or a kind of half-apology-
Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.69,0:49:53.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the Komagata Maru, in the same vein as \Nthe apology for the residential schools,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:53.75,0:49:57.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the same vein as the apology \Nof the Chinese Head Tax,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:57.13,0:50:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,y'know, totally token, offensive, symbolic gestures,\Nbut y'know, people know about the Komagata Maru.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.52,0:50:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The thing that most people don't know about
Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.22,0:50:09.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the sodomy cases that were happening at the \Nsame time as the Komagata Maru was happening.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:09.99,0:50:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So during 1909 and 1925, there was \Na number of sodomy cases
Dialogue: 0,0:50:14.48,0:50:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were being tried particularly \Nin the west coast of Canada.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:18.17,0:50:23.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the largest proportion of men being tried \Nunder sodomy laws at the time were Sikh men.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:23.69,0:50:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in particular there was a really high profile case \Nin 1915... has anyone seen Rex Vs. Singh?
Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.42,0:50:33.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If not... check out the movie, \Nit's a really important movie, y'know,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.75,0:50:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that links and ties the connection between anti-\Nmigrant sentiment and homophobia and transphobia,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:39.87,0:50:43.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in particular with \Nthe criminalization of communities
Dialogue: 0,0:50:43.67,0:50:47.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the assertion of state power \Nin the act of criminalization.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.51,0:50:51.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so in 1915, there was \Na relatively high-profile "case",
Dialogue: 0,0:50:51.45,0:50:55.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where there were two Sikh men, \Nthey were two Sikh millworkers,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:55.71,0:51:00.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their names were Dalip Singh and [Naina] Singh,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.09,0:51:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were two men \Nwho were tried for sodomy in 1915.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:04.48,0:51:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this was a time of... right.. one year after \Nthe Komagata Maru was turned back, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.94,0:51:13.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this is again happening in a period \Nwhen there's heightened
Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.65,0:51:18.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-particularly anti-Sikh anti-Punjabi, \Nanti-south Asian- sentiment in BC,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:18.47,0:51:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where newspapers are filled with y'know, "Turn back \Nthe Hindus!", "Hindus are invading our shores!",
Dialogue: 0,0:51:24.22,0:51:29.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while at the same time there's also a simultaneous \Ncrackdown on working class gay men,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:29.45,0:51:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in particular, working in the mills.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.68,0:51:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, the sodomy cases really are a confluence \Nof the ways in which the state
Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.56,0:51:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is simultaneously criminalizing under sodomy laws,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:39.96,0:51:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and simultaneously criminalizing \Nunder anti-migrant laws.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:43.04,0:51:48.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, the largest proportion of men tried \Nunder these cases during 1909 to 1929
Dialogue: 0,0:51:48.69,0:51:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were Sikh men, Sikh migrant men.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:52.01,0:51:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so again I say that to show\Nkind of an historic trajectory,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:57.44,0:52:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the ways in which the state has been \Nactively criminalizing communities of colour,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:03.39,0:52:06.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly queer and trans communities of colour\Nthrough state processes.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:06.94,0:52:10.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I wanna move quickly to the current context,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:10.35,0:52:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because again there's often a sense \Nthat all of this is new.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:14.10,0:52:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again in the current context we see \Nthe same kind of thing, where on the one hand
Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.44,0:52:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Canadian state is actively excluding \Nqueer and trans communities of colour,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.28,0:52:26.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while at the same time it's upholding the myth
Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.13,0:52:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of being welcoming for persecuted \Nqueer and trans folks from the global south.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:29.97,0:52:32.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we see that these \Nparallel discourses are necessary.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:32.85,0:52:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So one of them is the kind of homonationalist dis-\Ncourse; y'know, similar to the Israeli pinkwashing:
Dialogue: 0,0:52:38.18,0:52:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We're so welcoming", "We're this bastion \Nof queer and gay rights",
Dialogue: 0,0:52:43.32,0:52:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Western civilization frees everybody", y'know, \N"Western civilization is where equality rests";
Dialogue: 0,0:52:47.24,0:52:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while at the same time, the reality on the ground\Nis one that is actively of persecution.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:53.40,0:52:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see, particularly through immigration laws,\Nthe ways in which heteronormativity
Dialogue: 0,0:52:57.29,0:53:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-and particularly an assimilation politic-\Nat various levels is being reinforced.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:01.74,0:53:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So one really kind of obvious on the face example,\Nis that until 2002 same-sex relationships
Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.81,0:53:12.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-so this is just same sex relationships,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:12.01,0:53:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're not even talking about diverse \Nqueer familial relationships-
Dialogue: 0,0:53:16.24,0:53:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same sex relationships were not even recognized \Nuntil 2002 under the Canadian immigration Act
Dialogue: 0,0:53:19.95,0:53:24.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as being able to be qualified \Nunder the Family Class, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:53:24.94,0:53:29.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is 10 years ago, or how many years ago?\N10 years ago, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:53:29.41,0:53:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is very recent, in terms of \NCanadian immigration policy.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:33.74,0:53:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But just to move to kind of more recent examples,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:38.06,0:53:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then to talk about the ways in which homo-\Nnationalism has been an active part of Jason Kenney
Dialogue: 0,0:53:41.76,0:53:47.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-who is the current Minister of Deportation, \Nas some of us like to call him-
Dialogue: 0,0:53:47.99,0:53:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a number of ways in which we see... \NI wanna talk about 3 of many examples,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:52.07,0:53:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll only give 3 examples ... of the ways \Nin which that active exclusion is happening,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:57.24,0:54:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and persecution is happening, \Nof queers and trans folks
Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.12,0:54:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are trying to immigrate and particularly \Nclaim asylum within Canada,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:05.73,0:54:10.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the final thing is kind of fortification of \Nhomonationalism through the immigration system.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:10.20,0:54:13.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the first is, y'know, the citizenship guide.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.30,0:54:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the citizenship guide was a brand new citizenship \Nguide for Canada, espouses Canadian values...
Dialogue: 0,0:54:18.69,0:54:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we find out through the citizenship guide \Nthat Canadian values means
Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.06,0:54:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-absolutely no reference to \Nqueer and trans liberation struggles,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:26.94,0:54:29.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't even mention same sex marriage.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:29.73,0:54:34.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what it does have is a number \Nof recruitment ads into the military.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:34.29,0:54:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is the example of y'know \Nwhat Canada is presenting itself as,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:39.51,0:54:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of for newcomers \Nand for people becoming citizens.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:43.09,0:54:47.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Immigration and Refugee Board\Nhas a number of new judges
Dialogue: 0,0:54:47.09,0:54:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Jason Kenney and the \NConservatives recently appointed,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:51.27,0:54:55.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are openly anti-queer judges. \NOpenly anti-queer.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:55.27,0:55:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of them actually spoke at a fundraiser \Nthat was an openly anti-queer fundraiser.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:00.62,0:55:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he gets appointed by Jason Kenney, \Nto do what?
Dialogue: 0,0:55:04.79,0:55:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What kinds of claims is this person supposed \Nto be hearing? Anyone take a guess? ...
Dialogue: 0,0:55:12.26,0:55:18.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, basically, he is looking at claims \Nbased on gender and sexual persecution.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:18.93,0:55:22.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this is the kind of system \Nthat we have in place, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:55:22.100,0:55:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the other thing that we have that y'know \Ncompletely continues to re-entrench
Dialogue: 0,0:55:29.20,0:55:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heteronormativity as well as \Ncapitalist values and assimilative values,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:33.98,0:55:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the Humanitarian and Compassionate \NClaim in Canada right?
Dialogue: 0,0:55:37.09,0:55:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is like the claim that, \Nif you are trying to stay in Canada,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:40.52,0:55:42.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your sponsorship has been refused,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:42.93,0:55:47.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you're one of the many refugees who are\Nincreasingly being deported by Jason Kenney,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:47.58,0:55:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you're thrown into prison, as women and kids \Nare increasingly being thrown into prisons,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:52.99,0:55:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Humanitarian and Compassionate Claim \Nis something you can apply for,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:56.18,0:55:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to have an income,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:57.68,0:56:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you have a spouse and children, \Nthen that looks good,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:01.42,0:56:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're taxpaying, that looks good,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:04.02,0:56:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,y'know so it's basically the system \Nwhere immigration is increasingly becoming
Dialogue: 0,0:56:07.90,0:56:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a tool of capitalism and colonialism \Nand oppression and heteronormativity,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:11.64,0:56:14.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of the kinds of immigrants...
Dialogue: 0,0:56:14.47,0:56:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And y'know it's similar to \Nthe examples that Dean was giving,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:17.92,0:56:21.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of an immigration system that is \Nnot based on justice, at all, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:56:21.13,0:56:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's based on people who are gonna fulfill the needs \Nof the Canadian state and the Canadian economy.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:26.32,0:56:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But at the same time, so while we have this, y'know, \Nthis level of persecution, oppression happening,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:31.22,0:56:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what do we have Jason Kenney do?
Dialogue: 0,0:56:33.71,0:56:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jason Kenney sends an email to everyone \Nwho ever signed a petition for Alvaro [Orozco],
Dialogue: 0,0:56:37.04,0:56:40.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is a young, queer, Latino man in Toronto \Nwho was facing deportation,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:40.99,0:56:45.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he, he spams that email list...
Dialogue: 0,0:56:45.01,0:56:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-because when you sign those email petitions, \Nyou give your email to Jason Kenney-
Dialogue: 0,0:56:49.38,0:56:51.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he sends every one of those people an email about
Dialogue: 0,0:56:51.85,0:56:58.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how Jason Kenney is helping queers in Iran to come \Nto Canada. So this is what Jason Kenney does.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:58.39,0:57:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's a number of policies that are \Nactively anti-queer, anti-refugee, anti-migrant,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:04.28,0:57:09.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but everyone who's advocating for queer liberation, \Nfor queer rights, for migrant rights, for migrant justice
Dialogue: 0,0:57:09.83,0:57:13.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gets emails about how the Conservative government\Nis saving queers in Iran.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:13.67,0:57:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is, y'know, part of the pinkwashing, \Nthe imperialist agenda of the Tory government,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:18.44,0:57:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but really of the Canadian state, right?\NThis is just its current formation.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:22.46,0:57:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I just want to echo in ending, what everyone \Nhas already said, right? Which is:
Dialogue: 0,0:57:28.62,0:57:33.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we imagine -and how do we particularly \Nbecause I'm talking about a lens for migrant justice-
Dialogue: 0,0:57:33.83,0:57:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do we imagine a lens for migrant justice
Dialogue: 0,0:57:36.38,0:57:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that isn't dependent on people as labour, \Nor people as commodities?
Dialogue: 0,0:57:40.23,0:57:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That really truly respects and values \Nthe diverse ways in which people are communing,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:45.22,0:57:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the diverse ways people are forming relationships,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:47.47,0:57:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the diverse ways in which \Npeople imagine family, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:57:51.30,0:57:54.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because one of the other things \Nthat Jason Kenney has done
Dialogue: 0,0:57:54.43,0:57:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to say that people can't bring \Ntheir parents and grandparents any more,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:57.92,0:58:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because grandparents are using our tax... \Nare using our healthcare, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:01.68,0:58:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Jason Kenney is active in this immigration system,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:04.58,0:58:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is actually devaluing the various ways \Nin which people have families,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:07.94,0:58:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which include extended families \Nand doesn't just include your spouse, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:11.97,0:58:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It includes the ways particularly \Nfor communities of colour,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:14.78,0:58:17.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which family includes \Nmany many people in our lives.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:17.53,0:58:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Listening to Anna talk it was making me weepy,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:20.92,0:58:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I grew up not calling my mother \Nbut two other women, my moms,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:24.49,0:58:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when I tell people that here, \Npeople think it's really bizarre,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:27.46,0:58:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and assume that my mother was not part of my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:30.26,0:58:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But... so how do we imagine \Na kind of immigration system
Dialogue: 0,0:58:34.54,0:58:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people are valued based on basic principles \Nof justice and dignity, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:39.24,0:58:44.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, an immigration system and a welcoming \Nof migrants that is fundamentally anti-colonial,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:44.39,0:58:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that respects that this land is not terra nullius,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:47.08,0:58:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this land has been in the stewardship, taken care \Nof by Indigenous peoples for a very long time.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:53.76,0:58:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's Indigenous laws on these territories. How do \Nwe respect and honour and live under {\i1}these{\i0} laws?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:59.02,0:59:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we pledge allegiance to Indigenous \Nsovereign law, sovereign Indigenous laws, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:59:03.98,0:59:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rather than pledging allegiance to a \Ntotally fucked up colonial capitalist system
Dialogue: 0,0:59:07.89,0:59:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that makes us believe that people are expendable,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:11.01,0:59:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that make us believe that the only way \Nto get ahead is to assimilate, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:59:15.76,0:59:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That the only way that we're gonna get ahead is by \Nbuying into capitalism, by buying into colonialism,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:20.74,0:59:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by buying into cops and prisons \Nand sweatshops and apartheid,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:24.19,0:59:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than y'know, believing that we can actually \Npledge allegiance to our communities,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:27.86,0:59:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pledge allegiance to all our diverse families.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:31.30,0:59:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And pledge allegiance to the sovereign Indigenous \Nlaws of these lands. Thank you.