1 00:00:06,218 --> 00:00:09,338 Hullohhhhhhh! Welcome to the trews... 2 00:00:09,338 --> 00:00:11,477 Because Trews, in a way, is a bit of a scottish word, isnt it? 3 00:00:11,477 --> 00:00:14,175 i think it means trousers to scottish people doesnt it? 4 00:00:14,175 --> 00:00:15,881 The Trews is the news if the news were true, 5 00:00:15,881 --> 00:00:18,819 subscribe here to get the trews every day 6 00:00:18,819 --> 00:00:21,775 beamed directly into the middle of your consciousness 7 00:00:21,775 --> 00:00:24,259 where itll sprout like a glorious flower of scotland. 8 00:00:24,259 --> 00:00:26,184 today we're talking about scottish independence, 9 00:00:26,184 --> 00:00:28,634 power, and democracy. 10 00:00:28,634 --> 00:00:31,043 lets have a look though before i start piping up, 11 00:00:31,043 --> 00:00:33,794 at what david cameron's got to say, 12 00:00:33,794 --> 00:00:37,970 a man whose face immediately inspires love, deep within me. 13 00:00:37,970 --> 00:00:42,266 [cameron] Independence would not be a trial separation. 14 00:00:42,266 --> 00:00:44,696 It would be a painful divorce. 15 00:00:44,696 --> 00:00:49,582 [laughing] what emotive piece of language there to use. 16 00:00:49,582 --> 00:00:54,355 What i dont like when politicians are doing emotive rhetoric, 17 00:00:54,355 --> 00:00:56,443 is how they try and do some acting? 18 00:00:56,443 --> 00:00:57,994 like, hes now trying to do the face 19 00:00:57,994 --> 00:00:59,275 of a person 20 00:00:59,275 --> 00:01:02,128 "i better do a face that id do if i was going through a painful divorce" 21 00:01:04,051 --> 00:01:08,648 [cameron] And as prime minister, i have to tell you what that would mean. 22 00:01:08,648 --> 00:01:12,250 It would mean we no longer share the same currency. 23 00:01:12,250 --> 00:01:15,753 It would mean the armed forces we've built up together over centuries 24 00:01:15,753 --> 00:01:17,707 being split up forever. 25 00:01:17,707 --> 00:01:19,296 Money, violence. 26 00:01:19,296 --> 00:01:21,461 Thats his first things he's gone in with. 27 00:01:21,461 --> 00:01:23,420 "Right, well, you cant have the queen on your money, 28 00:01:23,420 --> 00:01:26,685 we wont let you back us up in our needless conflicts 29 00:01:26,685 --> 00:01:30,464 when we're fellating the americans and the corporations within them!" 30 00:01:30,464 --> 00:01:32,575 Oh... good! 31 00:01:32,575 --> 00:01:34,968 [cameraon] It would mean the automatic support that you currently get 32 00:01:34,968 --> 00:01:37,661 from british embassies when youre traveling around the world, 33 00:01:37,661 --> 00:01:39,298 that would come to an end. 34 00:01:39,298 --> 00:01:41,247 "OH NO!!! i love it when i go down the embassy, 35 00:01:41,247 --> 00:01:43,559 when youve lost your passport or somethin like that, 36 00:01:43,559 --> 00:01:45,411 that terrible quagmire! 37 00:01:45,411 --> 00:01:47,553 thats what youre offering up?? 38 00:01:47,553 --> 00:01:50,661 Right. Military, money, embassies?? 39 00:01:50,661 --> 00:01:52,658 They got to embassies a bit too quick. 40 00:01:52,658 --> 00:01:57,473 "If you think that im going to let you borrow my lawnmower, you can forget it! 41 00:01:57,473 --> 00:02:01,101 Swingball(?) Fuck off, thats MY swingball(?) now!" 42 00:02:01,101 --> 00:02:05,087 [cameron] It would mean over half of scottish mortgages suddenly from one day to the next, 43 00:02:05,087 --> 00:02:08,700 being provided by banks in a foreign country. 44 00:02:08,700 --> 00:02:10,126 Can you imagine that?? 45 00:02:10,126 --> 00:02:11,288 A foreigner?? 46 00:02:11,288 --> 00:02:12,700 It could be a black person! 47 00:02:12,700 --> 00:02:15,653 we dont know what colour this person is, or what their accent is! 48 00:02:15,653 --> 00:02:17,372 Theyve got their hands in your mortgage! 49 00:02:17,372 --> 00:02:22,522 Not like those trustworthy, city of london plutocrat snides 50 00:02:22,522 --> 00:02:26,951 that we have to bail out to the tune of billions every time they mug us off. 51 00:02:26,951 --> 00:02:29,003 [cameron] This is what would happen. 52 00:02:29,003 --> 00:02:32,476 An end to the things that we share together. 53 00:02:32,476 --> 00:02:39,846 And the people of scotland must know these facts before they make this once and for all decision. 54 00:02:39,846 --> 00:02:42,969 And to warn of the consequences is not to scare-monger. 55 00:02:42,969 --> 00:02:46,279 When someone says "this isnt a scare monger", after theyve said things like 56 00:02:46,279 --> 00:02:48,515 "you wont have any money! 57 00:02:48,515 --> 00:02:52,762 your mortgage is going to be controlled by a man called Abdul!", 58 00:02:52,762 --> 00:02:56,365 that IS scare mongering, that's why he's had to say "this isnt scare mongering". 59 00:02:56,365 --> 00:03:02,365 [cameron] I say all this because i dont want the people of scotland to be sold a dream 60 00:03:02,365 --> 00:03:03,766 that disappears. 61 00:03:03,766 --> 00:03:06,619 If i was scottish, i think where have you been, you c__t? 62 00:03:06,619 --> 00:03:08,148 It's like, he's just suddenly shown up, 63 00:03:08,148 --> 00:03:11,155 going on about how much hes into everything in scotland... 64 00:03:11,155 --> 00:03:14,098 "your mortgage, your mortgage is going to turn into seaweed!" 65 00:03:14,098 --> 00:03:17,298 "there are going to be pigs loose in your garden!" 66 00:03:17,298 --> 00:03:19,128 like, where have you been? where have you been? 67 00:03:19,128 --> 00:03:20,837 we've been here, always. 68 00:03:20,837 --> 00:03:22,793 [cameron] Because i would be heartbroken 69 00:03:22,793 --> 00:03:26,392 if this family of nations that we've put together 70 00:03:26,392 --> 00:03:28,840 and that we've done such amazing things together, 71 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,592 if this family of nations was torn apart. 72 00:03:31,839 --> 00:03:33,821 Now hes using emotional language. 73 00:03:33,821 --> 00:03:35,053 Its interesting isnt it? 74 00:03:35,053 --> 00:03:39,314 "heartbreak", and "family", and "divorce". 75 00:03:39,314 --> 00:03:41,363 Because what they know is that the Yes campaign 76 00:03:41,363 --> 00:03:45,478 galvanizes people on a nationalistic tribal level. 77 00:03:45,478 --> 00:03:50,827 scottish people have got their culture, and their folk heroes, and their myths, and their identities. 78 00:03:50,827 --> 00:03:52,913 How can we get past that? 79 00:03:52,913 --> 00:03:54,408 Fear, a very base... 80 00:03:54,408 --> 00:03:55,927 "youre gonna lose your money!" 81 00:03:55,927 --> 00:03:57,922 "your children! your children! theyll all fall over!" 82 00:03:57,922 --> 00:04:00,718 "theres all broken glass on the pavement!!!" 83 00:04:00,718 --> 00:04:07,029 And then, like, ideas that are deep in our psyche about family, about evoking them, 84 00:04:07,029 --> 00:04:09,291 and heartbreak, love, and emotion. 85 00:04:09,291 --> 00:04:12,332 But these people, like david cameron, like george osborne, 86 00:04:12,332 --> 00:04:14,444 they dont understand emotion in the way we do 87 00:04:14,444 --> 00:04:19,039 because they are institutionalized deeply in privilege for their entire lives, 88 00:04:19,039 --> 00:04:22,198 theyre not people such as we understand them. 89 00:04:22,198 --> 00:04:26,678 these are tools of corporate apparatus, tools of state apparatus, 90 00:04:26,678 --> 00:04:29,527 the reason scottish people are so galvanized and excited by this election 91 00:04:29,527 --> 00:04:33,324 is because as ive long said, democracy is typically meaningless. 92 00:04:33,324 --> 00:04:38,425 here, for once, is a referendum where the outcome will affect peoples lives, 93 00:04:38,425 --> 00:04:39,891 and people are interested. 94 00:04:39,891 --> 00:04:41,130 theyre not apathetic. 95 00:04:41,130 --> 00:04:44,282 That lie ends with the excitement around this referendum. 96 00:04:44,282 --> 00:04:49,085 [cameron] Sometimes because its an election, because its a ballot, 97 00:04:49,085 --> 00:04:51,806 i think people can feel as if its a bit like a general election. 98 00:04:51,806 --> 00:04:55,214 That you make a decision and 5 years later you can make another decision. 99 00:04:55,214 --> 00:04:58,568 If you're fed up with the effing tories, give them a kick, 100 00:04:58,568 --> 00:04:59,838 and then maybe we'll think again... 101 00:04:59,838 --> 00:05:01,561 Dont try and be normal, mate. 102 00:05:01,561 --> 00:05:02,528 Dont try to... 103 00:05:02,528 --> 00:05:04,162 "fed up the effing tories, 104 00:05:04,162 --> 00:05:08,284 and that pie-faced, moon-faced, toffee-nosed, privileged, 105 00:05:08,284 --> 00:05:13,081 tool of the cruel and corporate David Ca... hang onna minute! 106 00:05:13,081 --> 00:05:14,450 I'M david cameron!!!" 107 00:05:14,450 --> 00:05:16,733 [cameron] If scotland voted No to separation, 108 00:05:16,733 --> 00:05:20,318 the rest of the united kingdom would say yes to further devolution. 109 00:05:20,318 --> 00:05:23,569 It's been good in the campaign that we've been able to say more about that, 110 00:05:23,569 --> 00:05:24,942 and i think thats a positive. 111 00:05:24,942 --> 00:05:26,645 "No" doesnt mean no change. 112 00:05:26,645 --> 00:05:29,952 [reporter] But it all looks terribly last minute in terms of the timetable and the detail. 113 00:05:29,952 --> 00:05:32,392 You were the prime minister who agreed the referendum, 114 00:05:32,392 --> 00:05:34,971 but also kept DevoMax off the ballot paper. 115 00:05:34,971 --> 00:05:38,053 Im glad they kept DevoMax off the ballot paper. 116 00:05:38,053 --> 00:05:40,971 Sounds like a drink full of aspartame. 117 00:05:40,971 --> 00:05:44,848 [in kind of west coast american accent] DevoMax, why not try DevoMax? 118 00:05:44,848 --> 00:05:47,091 It's a meaningless compromise!" 119 00:05:47,091 --> 00:05:50,439 Theyre trying to pull you into the bureaucracy all the time. 120 00:05:50,439 --> 00:05:52,674 Can scotland be independent and keep sterling? 121 00:05:52,674 --> 00:05:54,428 hows scotland gonna defend itself? 122 00:05:54,428 --> 00:05:58,194 how much north sea oil revenue can independent scotland extract? 123 00:05:58,194 --> 00:05:59,604 Devolution of the NHS. 124 00:05:59,604 --> 00:06:01,199 Currency union. 125 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:02,843 EU! 126 00:06:02,843 --> 00:06:05,443 Really though, this is about, well you know what this is about, 127 00:06:05,443 --> 00:06:10,257 this is about peoples emotions, and peoples sense of connection to land; 128 00:06:10,257 --> 00:06:13,756 and their sense of having some authority and ownership of their lives. 129 00:06:13,756 --> 00:06:15,876 Feelings that we dont get anymore 130 00:06:15,876 --> 00:06:19,199 because we know that politics is abstracted from us, 131 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:23,753 and interacts in some aloof ethereal world of high finance. 132 00:06:23,753 --> 00:06:27,861 with us, theyre just like "oh yes, a billion, its going to cost a billion to save the NHS, 133 00:06:27,861 --> 00:06:29,671 we aint got it im afraid. 134 00:06:29,671 --> 00:06:32,717 Theres been a financial collapse! We need 700 billion to save the city! 135 00:06:32,717 --> 00:06:33,972 Here you go!!!" 136 00:06:33,972 --> 00:06:35,478 I... wh... do... whaaat? 137 00:06:35,478 --> 00:06:37,838 So like now when people get an opportunity to interact and engage 138 00:06:37,838 --> 00:06:39,345 with something they feel affects them, 139 00:06:39,345 --> 00:06:41,034 theyre interested and theyre impassioned, 140 00:06:41,034 --> 00:06:43,478 and i would say that we dont only want devolution for scotland, 141 00:06:43,478 --> 00:06:45,122 we want further devolution, 142 00:06:45,122 --> 00:06:47,249 devolution right down to the city level. 143 00:06:47,249 --> 00:06:49,045 an independent manchester. an independent newcastle. 144 00:06:49,045 --> 00:06:51,500 an independent london. independence everywhere. 145 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:56,162 so we're all engaged, we're all controlling our own authorities, our municipal authorities, 146 00:06:56,162 --> 00:06:58,106 our own utilities and facilities, 147 00:06:58,106 --> 00:06:59,328 because what theyve got... 148 00:06:59,328 --> 00:07:00,719 when theyre talking about power, 149 00:07:00,719 --> 00:07:01,995 "we're more powerful together!" 150 00:07:01,995 --> 00:07:03,285 Who's power? 151 00:07:03,285 --> 00:07:04,642 who gets to use that power? 152 00:07:04,642 --> 00:07:06,724 does the NHS get to use that power? 153 00:07:06,724 --> 00:07:08,850 do unemployed people get to use that power? 154 00:07:08,850 --> 00:07:10,506 do homeless people get to use that power? 155 00:07:10,506 --> 00:07:12,110 who's power is it? 156 00:07:12,110 --> 00:07:15,263 people like david cameron's, RICH peoples power. 157 00:07:15,263 --> 00:07:17,673 [cameron] I feel passionately about our united kingdom. 158 00:07:17,673 --> 00:07:20,428 i desperately want our country[sic] to stay together. 159 00:07:20,428 --> 00:07:22,762 i very much hope that scotland will vote "No", 160 00:07:22,762 --> 00:07:24,969 and that will trigger further devolution. 161 00:07:24,969 --> 00:07:26,261 but im a democrat. 162 00:07:26,261 --> 00:07:31,633 "im a democrat! i like democracy! where rich people vote about rich people stuff, 163 00:07:31,633 --> 00:07:33,758 and then we do rich people things! 164 00:07:33,758 --> 00:07:38,690 THIS kind of democracy, where ordinary people vote? I dont like this very much!!" 165 00:07:38,690 --> 00:07:43,947 Democracy, in a democracy, you wouldnt have the leaders of all 3 parties all going up, 166 00:07:43,947 --> 00:07:48,028 & even Farage [UK Independence Party leader], all 4 of them going up there together to say exactly the same thing. 167 00:07:48,028 --> 00:07:49,335 Theres your democracy. 168 00:07:49,335 --> 00:07:51,001 theres your choice. 169 00:07:51,001 --> 00:07:52,607 they all believe the same thing. 170 00:07:52,607 --> 00:07:54,842 the y all work for the same people. 171 00:07:54,842 --> 00:07:56,256 for scotland, i hope its better. 172 00:07:56,256 --> 00:07:59,248 i hope alex salmond and the government that you get in an independent scotland 173 00:07:59,248 --> 00:08:00,165 is better, 174 00:08:00,165 --> 00:08:02,131 and that the power goes to the people, 175 00:08:02,131 --> 00:08:04,566 not to the corporations that the politicians work for. 176 00:08:04,566 --> 00:08:06,895 [cameron] I want our united kingdom to stay together. 177 00:08:06,895 --> 00:08:09,636 i believe we're stronger, safer, better off. 178 00:08:09,636 --> 00:08:12,566 i think YOURE stronger, safer, better off. 179 00:08:12,566 --> 00:08:15,795 [cameron] In this dangerous world of instability and problems and threats, 180 00:08:15,795 --> 00:08:19,186 the most recent of which we can see from Syria and Iraq. 181 00:08:19,186 --> 00:08:20,326 WHAT??? 182 00:08:20,326 --> 00:08:21,633 What? ISIS? 183 00:08:21,633 --> 00:08:24,674 "Like... we've spoken to ISIS, they said if scotland go independent, 184 00:08:24,674 --> 00:08:29,172 theyre gonna go over there and lop heads off left and bloody right!" 185 00:08:29,172 --> 00:08:32,803 [reporter] do you wish that you personally perhaps and the union campaign, 186 00:08:32,803 --> 00:08:35,123 had made more effort earlier on? 187 00:08:35,123 --> 00:08:37,499 [cameron] Well i believe i fought this campaign very hard, 188 00:08:37,499 --> 00:08:41,585 this is something like my 11th major intervention into this campaign. 189 00:08:41,585 --> 00:08:44,082 "IM INTERVENING! IN THE CAMPAIGN!" 190 00:08:44,082 --> 00:08:46,393 [singing] "This is the campaign! It's going quite badly!" 191 00:08:46,393 --> 00:08:49,000 What this is, is people sense a little bit of autonomy, 192 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,851 people sense a little bit of democracy, 193 00:08:50,851 --> 00:08:53,037 and people are impassioned and people are interested. 194 00:08:53,037 --> 00:08:56,353 i think, give people more democracy, give people something worth voting for, 195 00:08:56,353 --> 00:08:59,260 and everyone will vote for it, including me. 196 00:08:59,260 --> 00:09:02,798 [cameron] It is a campaign of all of those parties and people and trade unions 197 00:09:02,798 --> 00:09:04,556 and voluntary bodies and charities, 198 00:09:04,556 --> 00:09:06,805 and people who have nothing to do with politics 199 00:09:06,805 --> 00:09:09,465 who want scotland to stay part of our family of nations 200 00:09:09,465 --> 00:09:10,895 and those who want us to leave. 201 00:09:10,895 --> 00:09:12,916 Well just decide for yourselves, eh? 202 00:09:12,916 --> 00:09:17,145 if i had any opportunity to vote and fuck them lot off? 203 00:09:17,145 --> 00:09:18,897 id vote for it. 204 00:09:18,897 --> 00:09:21,820 i hope one day all of us get an opportunity 205 00:09:21,820 --> 00:09:22,313 to vote for a new kind of politics... 206 00:09:22,313 --> 00:09:24,523 im not saying thats what scotland are getting, 207 00:09:24,523 --> 00:09:26,475 but im saying that the feeling, the euphoria, 208 00:09:26,475 --> 00:09:28,449 the excitement, the unity, 209 00:09:28,449 --> 00:09:29,606 among scottish people, 210 00:09:29,606 --> 00:09:31,731 is precisely because it does feel like theres a point. 211 00:09:31,731 --> 00:09:33,565 and that exposes the flaw in our democracy, 212 00:09:33,565 --> 00:09:35,158 that it IS meaningless, 213 00:09:35,158 --> 00:09:38,065 and they DO serve absent corporate bodies, 214 00:09:38,065 --> 00:09:40,307 not the population theyre elected to serve. 215 00:09:40,307 --> 00:09:42,665 That is some trews!