WEBVTT 00:00:06.218 --> 00:00:09.338 Hullohhhhhhh! Welcome to the trews... 00:00:09.338 --> 00:00:11.477 Because Trews, in a way, is a bit of a scottish word, isnt it? 00:00:11.477 --> 00:00:14.175 i think it means trousers to scottish people doesnt it? 00:00:14.175 --> 00:00:15.881 The Trews is the news if the news were true, 00:00:15.881 --> 00:00:18.819 subscribe here to get the trews every day 00:00:18.819 --> 00:00:21.775 beamed directly into the middle of your consciousness 00:00:21.775 --> 00:00:24.259 where itll sprout like a glorious flower of scotland. 00:00:24.259 --> 00:00:26.184 today we're talking about scottish independence, 00:00:26.184 --> 00:00:28.634 power, and democracy. 00:00:28.634 --> 00:00:31.043 lets have a look though before i start piping up, 00:00:31.043 --> 00:00:33.794 at what david cameron's got to say, 00:00:33.794 --> 00:00:37.970 a man whose face immediately inspires love, deep within me. 00:00:37.970 --> 00:00:42.266 [cameron] Independence would not be a trial separation. 00:00:42.266 --> 00:00:44.696 It would be a painful divorce. 00:00:44.696 --> 00:00:49.582 [laughing] what emotive piece of language there to use. 00:00:49.582 --> 00:00:54.355 What i dont like when politicians are doing emotive rhetoric, 00:00:54.355 --> 00:00:56.443 is how they try and do some acting? 00:00:56.443 --> 00:00:57.994 like, hes now trying to do the face 00:00:57.994 --> 00:00:59.275 of a person 00:00:59.275 --> 00:01:02.128 "i better do a face that id do if i was going through a painful divorce" 00:01:04.051 --> 00:01:08.648 [cameron] And as prime minister, i have to tell you what that would mean. 00:01:08.648 --> 00:01:12.250 It would mean we no longer share the same currency. 00:01:12.250 --> 00:01:15.753 It would mean the armed forces we've built up together over centuries 00:01:15.753 --> 00:01:17.707 being split up forever. 00:01:17.707 --> 00:01:19.296 Money, violence. 00:01:19.296 --> 00:01:21.461 Thats his first things he's gone in with. 00:01:21.461 --> 00:01:23.420 "Right, well, you cant have the queen on your money, 00:01:23.420 --> 00:01:26.685 we wont let you back us up in our needless conflicts 00:01:26.685 --> 00:01:30.464 when we're fellating the americans and the corporations within them!" 00:01:30.464 --> 00:01:32.575 Oh... good! 00:01:32.575 --> 00:01:34.968 [cameraon] It would mean the automatic support that you currently get 00:01:34.968 --> 00:01:37.661 from british embassies when youre traveling around the world, 00:01:37.661 --> 00:01:39.298 that would come to an end. 00:01:39.298 --> 00:01:41.247 "OH NO!!! i love it when i go down the embassy, 00:01:41.247 --> 00:01:43.559 when youve lost your passport or somethin like that, 00:01:43.559 --> 00:01:45.411 that terrible quagmire! 00:01:45.411 --> 00:01:47.553 thats what youre offering up?? 00:01:47.553 --> 00:01:50.661 Right. Military, money, embassies?? 00:01:50.661 --> 00:01:52.658 They got to embassies a bit too quick. 00:01:52.658 --> 00:01:57.473 "If you think that im going to let you borrow my lawnmower, you can forget it! 00:01:57.473 --> 00:02:01.101 Swingball(?) Fuck off, thats MY swingball(?) now!" 00:02:01.101 --> 00:02:05.087 [cameron] It would mean over half of scottish mortgages suddenly from one day to the next, 00:02:05.087 --> 00:02:08.700 being provided by banks in a foreign country. 00:02:08.700 --> 00:02:10.126 Can you imagine that?? 00:02:10.126 --> 00:02:11.288 A foreigner?? 00:02:11.288 --> 00:02:12.700 It could be a black person! 00:02:12.700 --> 00:02:15.653 we dont know what colour this person is, or what their accent is! 00:02:15.653 --> 00:02:17.372 Theyve got their hands in your mortgage! 00:02:17.372 --> 00:02:22.522 Not like those trustworthy, city of london plutocrat snides 00:02:22.522 --> 00:02:26.951 that we have to bail out to the tune of billions every time they mug us off. 00:02:26.951 --> 00:02:29.003 [cameron] This is what would happen. 00:02:29.003 --> 00:02:32.476 An end to the things that we share together. 00:02:32.476 --> 00:02:39.846 And the people of scotland must know these facts before they make this once and for all decision. 00:02:39.846 --> 00:02:42.969 And to warn of the consequences is not to scare-monger. 00:02:42.969 --> 00:02:46.279 When someone says "this isnt a scare monger", after theyve said things like 00:02:46.279 --> 00:02:48.515 "you wont have any money! 00:02:48.515 --> 00:02:52.762 your mortgage is going to be controlled by a man called Abdul!", 00:02:52.762 --> 00:02:56.365 that IS scare mongering, that's why he's had to say "this isnt scare mongering". 00:02:56.365 --> 00:03:02.365 [cameron] I say all this because i dont want the people of scotland to be sold a dream 00:03:02.365 --> 00:03:03.766 that disappears. 00:03:03.766 --> 00:03:06.619 If i was scottish, i think where have you been, you c__t? 00:03:06.619 --> 00:03:08.148 It's like, he's just suddenly shown up, 00:03:08.148 --> 00:03:11.155 going on about how much hes into everything in scotland... 00:03:11.155 --> 00:03:14.098 "your mortgage, your mortgage is going to turn into seaweed!" 00:03:14.098 --> 00:03:17.298 "there are going to be pigs loose in your garden!" 00:03:17.298 --> 00:03:19.128 like, where have you been? where have you been? 00:03:19.128 --> 00:03:20.837 we've been here, always. 00:03:20.837 --> 00:03:22.793 [cameron] Because i would be heartbroken 00:03:22.793 --> 00:03:26.392 if this family of nations that we've put together 00:03:26.392 --> 00:03:28.840 and that we've done such amazing things together, 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:31.592 if this family of nations was torn apart. 00:03:31.839 --> 00:03:33.821 Now hes using emotional language. 00:03:33.821 --> 00:03:35.053 Its interesting isnt it? 00:03:35.053 --> 00:03:39.314 "heartbreak", and "family", and "divorce". 00:03:39.314 --> 00:03:41.363 Because what they know is that the Yes campaign 00:03:41.363 --> 00:03:45.478 galvanizes people on a nationalistic tribal level. 00:03:45.478 --> 00:03:50.827 scottish people have got their culture, and their folk heroes, and their myths, and their identities. 00:03:50.827 --> 00:03:52.913 How can we get past that? 00:03:52.913 --> 00:03:54.408 Fear, a very base... 00:03:54.408 --> 00:03:55.927 "youre gonna lose your money!" 00:03:55.927 --> 00:03:57.922 "your children! your children! theyll all fall over!" 00:03:57.922 --> 00:04:00.718 "theres all broken glass on the pavement!!!" 00:04:00.718 --> 00:04:07.029 And then, like, ideas that are deep in our psyche about family, about evoking them, 00:04:07.029 --> 00:04:09.291 and heartbreak, love, and emotion. 00:04:09.291 --> 00:04:12.332 But these people, like david cameron, like george osborne, 00:04:12.332 --> 00:04:14.444 they dont understand emotion in the way we do 00:04:14.444 --> 00:04:19.039 because they are institutionalized deeply in privilege for their entire lives, 00:04:19.039 --> 00:04:22.198 theyre not people such as we understand them. 00:04:22.198 --> 00:04:26.678 these are tools of corporate apparatus, tools of state apparatus, 00:04:26.678 --> 00:04:29.527 the reason scottish people are so galvanized and excited by this election 00:04:29.527 --> 00:04:33.324 is because as ive long said, democracy is typically meaningless. 00:04:33.324 --> 00:04:38.425 here, for once, is a referendum where the outcome will affect peoples lives, 00:04:38.425 --> 00:04:39.891 and people are interested. 00:04:39.891 --> 00:04:41.130 theyre not apathetic. 00:04:41.130 --> 00:04:44.282 That lie ends with the excitement around this referendum. 00:04:44.282 --> 00:04:49.085 [cameron] Sometimes because its an election, because its a ballot, 00:04:49.085 --> 00:04:51.806 i think people can feel as if its a bit like a general election. 00:04:51.806 --> 00:04:55.214 That you make a decision and 5 years later you can make another decision. 00:04:55.214 --> 00:04:58.568 If you're fed up with the effing tories, give them a kick, 00:04:58.568 --> 00:04:59.838 and then maybe we'll think again... 00:04:59.838 --> 00:05:01.561 Dont try and be normal, mate. 00:05:01.561 --> 00:05:02.528 Dont try to... 00:05:02.528 --> 00:05:04.162 "fed up the effing tories, 00:05:04.162 --> 00:05:08.284 and that pie-faced, moon-faced, toffee-nosed, privileged, 00:05:08.284 --> 00:05:13.081 tool of the cruel and corporate David Ca... hang onna minute! 00:05:13.081 --> 00:05:14.450 I'M david cameron!!!" 00:05:14.450 --> 00:05:16.733 [cameron] If scotland voted No to separation, 00:05:16.733 --> 00:05:20.318 the rest of the united kingdom would say yes to further devolution. 00:05:20.318 --> 00:05:23.569 It's been good in the campaign that we've been able to say more about that, 00:05:23.569 --> 00:05:24.942 and i think thats a positive. 00:05:24.942 --> 00:05:26.645 "No" doesnt mean no change. 00:05:26.645 --> 00:05:29.952 [reporter] But it all looks terribly last minute in terms of the timetable and the detail. 00:05:29.952 --> 00:05:32.392 You were the prime minister who agreed the referendum, 00:05:32.392 --> 00:05:34.971 but also kept DevoMax off the ballot paper. 00:05:34.971 --> 00:05:38.053 Im glad they kept DevoMax off the ballot paper. 00:05:38.053 --> 00:05:40.971 Sounds like a drink full of aspartame. 00:05:40.971 --> 00:05:44.848 [in kind of west coast american accent] DevoMax, why not try DevoMax? 00:05:44.848 --> 00:05:47.091 It's a meaningless compromise!" 00:05:47.091 --> 00:05:50.439 Theyre trying to pull you into the bureaucracy all the time. 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:52.674 Can scotland be independent and keep sterling? 00:05:52.674 --> 00:05:54.428 hows scotland gonna defend itself? 00:05:54.428 --> 00:05:58.194 how much north sea oil revenue can independent scotland extract? 00:05:58.194 --> 00:05:59.604 Devolution of the NHS. 00:05:59.604 --> 00:06:01.199 Currency union. 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:02.843 EU! 00:06:02.843 --> 00:06:05.443 Really though, this is about, well you know what this is about, 00:06:05.443 --> 00:06:10.257 this is about peoples emotions, and peoples sense of connection to land; 00:06:10.257 --> 00:06:13.756 and their sense of having some authority and ownership of their lives. 00:06:13.756 --> 00:06:15.876 Feelings that we dont get anymore 00:06:15.876 --> 00:06:19.199 because we know that politics is abstracted from us, 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:23.753 and interacts in some aloof ethereal world of high finance. 00:06:23.753 --> 00:06:27.861 with us, theyre just like "oh yes, a billion, its going to cost a billion to save the NHS, 00:06:27.861 --> 00:06:29.671 we aint got it im afraid. 00:06:29.671 --> 00:06:32.717 Theres been a financial collapse! We need 700 billion to save the city! 00:06:32.717 --> 00:06:33.972 Here you go!!!" 00:06:33.972 --> 00:06:35.478 I... wh... do... whaaat? 00:06:35.478 --> 00:06:37.838 So like now when people get an opportunity to interact and engage 00:06:37.838 --> 00:06:39.345 with something they feel affects them, 00:06:39.345 --> 00:06:41.034 theyre interested and theyre impassioned, 00:06:41.034 --> 00:06:43.478 and i would say that we dont only want devolution for scotland, 00:06:43.478 --> 00:06:45.122 we want further devolution, 00:06:45.122 --> 00:06:47.249 devolution right down to the city level. 00:06:47.249 --> 00:06:49.045 an independent manchester. an independent newcastle. 00:06:49.045 --> 00:06:51.500 an independent london. independence everywhere. 00:06:51.500 --> 00:06:56.162 so we're all engaged, we're all controlling our own authorities, our municipal authorities, 00:06:56.162 --> 00:06:58.106 our own utilities and facilities, 00:06:58.106 --> 00:06:59.328 because what theyve got... 00:06:59.328 --> 00:07:00.719 when theyre talking about power, 00:07:00.719 --> 00:07:01.995 "we're more powerful together!" 00:07:01.995 --> 00:07:03.285 Who's power? 00:07:03.285 --> 00:07:04.642 who gets to use that power? 00:07:04.642 --> 00:07:06.724 does the NHS get to use that power? 00:07:06.724 --> 00:07:08.850 do unemployed people get to use that power? 00:07:08.850 --> 00:07:10.506 do homeless people get to use that power? 00:07:10.506 --> 00:07:12.110 who's power is it? 00:07:12.110 --> 00:07:15.263 people like david cameron's, RICH peoples power. 00:07:15.263 --> 00:07:17.673 [cameron] I feel passionately about our united kingdom. 00:07:17.673 --> 00:07:20.428 i desperately want our country[sic] to stay together. 00:07:20.428 --> 00:07:22.762 i very much hope that scotland will vote "No", 00:07:22.762 --> 00:07:24.969 and that will trigger further devolution. 00:07:24.969 --> 00:07:26.261 but im a democrat. 00:07:26.261 --> 00:07:31.633 "im a democrat! i like democracy! where rich people vote about rich people stuff, 00:07:31.633 --> 00:07:33.758 and then we do rich people things! 00:07:33.758 --> 00:07:38.690 THIS kind of democracy, where ordinary people vote? I dont like this very much!!" 00:07:38.690 --> 00:07:43.947 Democracy, in a democracy, you wouldnt have the leaders of all 3 parties all going up, 00:07:43.947 --> 00:07:48.028 & even Farage [UK Independence Party leader], all 4 of them going up there together to say exactly the same thing. 00:07:48.028 --> 00:07:49.335 Theres your democracy. 00:07:49.335 --> 00:07:51.001 theres your choice. 00:07:51.001 --> 00:07:52.607 they all believe the same thing. 00:07:52.607 --> 00:07:54.842 the y all work for the same people. 00:07:54.842 --> 00:07:56.256 for scotland, i hope its better. 00:07:56.256 --> 00:07:59.248 i hope alex salmond and the government that you get in an independent scotland 00:07:59.248 --> 00:08:00.165 is better, 00:08:00.165 --> 00:08:02.131 and that the power goes to the people, 00:08:02.131 --> 00:08:04.566 not to the corporations that the politicians work for. 00:08:04.566 --> 00:08:06.895 [cameron] I want our united kingdom to stay together. 00:08:06.895 --> 00:08:09.636 i believe we're stronger, safer, better off. 00:08:09.636 --> 00:08:12.566 i think YOURE stronger, safer, better off. 00:08:12.566 --> 00:08:15.795 [cameron] In this dangerous world of instability and problems and threats, 00:08:15.795 --> 00:08:19.186 the most recent of which we can see from Syria and Iraq. 00:08:19.186 --> 00:08:20.326 WHAT??? 00:08:20.326 --> 00:08:21.633 What? ISIS? 00:08:21.633 --> 00:08:24.674 "Like... we've spoken to ISIS, they said if scotland go independent, 00:08:24.674 --> 00:08:29.172 theyre gonna go over there and lop heads off left and bloody right!" 00:08:29.172 --> 00:08:32.803 [reporter] do you wish that you personally perhaps and the union campaign, 00:08:32.803 --> 00:08:35.123 had made more effort earlier on? 00:08:35.123 --> 00:08:37.499 [cameron] Well i believe i fought this campaign very hard, 00:08:37.499 --> 00:08:41.585 this is something like my 11th major intervention into this campaign. 00:08:41.585 --> 00:08:44.082 "IM INTERVENING! IN THE CAMPAIGN!" 00:08:44.082 --> 00:08:46.393 [singing] "This is the campaign! It's going quite badly!" 00:08:46.393 --> 00:08:49.000 What this is, is people sense a little bit of autonomy, 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:50.851 people sense a little bit of democracy, 00:08:50.851 --> 00:08:53.037 and people are impassioned and people are interested. 00:08:53.037 --> 00:08:56.353 i think, give people more democracy, give people something worth voting for, 00:08:56.353 --> 00:08:59.260 and everyone will vote for it, including me. 00:08:59.260 --> 00:09:02.798 [cameron] It is a campaign of all of those parties and people and trade unions 00:09:02.798 --> 00:09:04.556 and voluntary bodies and charities, 00:09:04.556 --> 00:09:06.805 and people who have nothing to do with politics 00:09:06.805 --> 00:09:09.465 who want scotland to stay part of our family of nations 00:09:09.465 --> 00:09:10.895 and those who want us to leave. 00:09:10.895 --> 00:09:12.916 Well just decide for yourselves, eh? 00:09:12.916 --> 00:09:17.145 if i had any opportunity to vote and fuck them lot off? 00:09:17.145 --> 00:09:18.897 id vote for it. 00:09:18.897 --> 00:09:21.820 i hope one day all of us get an opportunity 00:09:21.820 --> 00:09:22.313 to vote for a new kind of politics... 00:09:22.313 --> 00:09:24.523 im not saying thats what scotland are getting, 00:09:24.523 --> 00:09:26.475 but im saying that the feeling, the euphoria, 00:09:26.475 --> 00:09:28.449 the excitement, the unity, 00:09:28.449 --> 00:09:29.606 among scottish people, 00:09:29.606 --> 00:09:31.731 is precisely because it does feel like theres a point. 00:09:31.731 --> 00:09:33.565 and that exposes the flaw in our democracy, 00:09:33.565 --> 00:09:35.158 that it IS meaningless, 00:09:35.158 --> 00:09:38.065 and they DO serve absent corporate bodies, 00:09:38.065 --> 00:09:40.307 not the population theyre elected to serve. 00:09:40.307 --> 00:09:42.665 That is some trews!