1 00:00:06,502 --> 00:00:12,000 ANCHOR: First, thank God you are safe, brother Saddam, what can you tell us about what you have seen since Feb 15th? 2 00:00:15,532 --> 00:00:19,064 Or between then and when you left Libya? 3 00:00:19,064 --> 00:00:23,940 SADAM: Yes, peace be with you. 4 00:00:23,940 --> 00:00:27,144 I am a resident of the city of Al Bayda in Libya, as you know. 5 00:00:27,144 --> 00:00:31,766 We came out on the 16th, in Al Bayda. 6 00:00:31,766 --> 00:00:38,986 We weren't drunk or on pills like he (Gadafi) said, or copying the Tunisian and Egyptian revolutions 7 00:00:38,986 --> 00:00:42,237 ANCHOR: You mean what Gaddafi has said? 8 00:00:42,237 --> 00:00:46,231 SADAM: Yes, yes. 9 00:00:46,231 --> 00:00:51,594 It was a peacefull demonstration, by God, we were asking for a proper health system, education... 10 00:00:51,594 --> 00:00:53,633 ...and a solid foundation 11 00:00:53,633 --> 00:00:57,980 that was enough for him to massacre us and unleash mercenaries on us 12 00:00:57,980 --> 00:01:02,196 from the first day our bodies were strewn on the street 13 00:01:02,196 --> 00:01:03,466 17 men perished 14 00:01:03,466 --> 00:01:07,678 because we demanded our basic rights 15 00:01:07,678 --> 00:01:10,918 and he (Gadafi) tells you that the people govern and arm themsleves 16 00:01:10,933 --> 00:01:12,625 what self governance? 17 00:01:12,625 --> 00:01:24,179 the moment he gained power the only thing we had was oppression, weakness, subjugation 18 00:01:24,179 --> 00:01:28,475 only threats, threats! 19 00:01:28,475 --> 00:01:33,828 ANCHOR: Yes, yes...what was or were the toughest moments for you in the past days? 20 00:01:35,397 --> 00:01:40,984 SADAM: Feb 18th, in Shahat. After we surrounded the mercenaries 21 00:01:43,338 --> 00:01:51,154 after we freed Al Baydah the 17th, we went to the hospital to donate blood to the injured 22 00:01:51,154 --> 00:01:58,073 someone came to us from Shahat, he put down his brothers body 23 00:01:58,073 --> 00:02:01,745 and asked the youth of Al Baydah to come support him 24 00:02:01,745 --> 00:02:05,461 and stand up to the tyrants, after they left, 40 of them died as martyrs 25 00:02:05,461 --> 00:02:08,904 there were police from Al Baydah who were trapped inside 26 00:02:08,904 --> 00:02:12,331 they wanted to surrender, and as soon as they got out they began shooting at their heads 27 00:02:12,331 --> 00:02:22,083 I remember one gruesome moment when steam was rising from a man's head after being shot 28 00:02:22,083 --> 00:02:25,256 this is blasphemy, what religion does he belong to? And he says we are rats! 29 00:02:25,256 --> 00:02:28,584 We are soldiers and we want to free Libya from this oppression 30 00:02:28,584 --> 00:02:32,108 enough corruption, Muammar (Gadafi), enough killing! 31 00:02:32,108 --> 00:02:34,993 all this, you haven't had enough? You only want our blood! 32 00:02:34,993 --> 00:02:38,030 you're a thug, a killer! 33 00:02:38,030 --> 00:02:44,347 ANCHOR: Have you left Libya on your own or did you accompany any family? 34 00:02:44,347 --> 00:02:50,551 I ask you this question because Gadafi has said that some of you were separated from each other 35 00:02:50,551 --> 00:02:57,423 and that you were given hallucinogenic pills and drugs , etc.. 36 00:02:57,423 --> 00:03:05,178 so that you lose control of your minds and thinking 37 00:03:05,178 --> 00:03:14,342 how do you respond to that? 38 00:03:14,342 --> 00:03:20,319 SADAM: I say.... 39 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:27,685 we are dying! At 21, our dreams are being crushed 40 00:03:27,685 --> 00:03:32,585 no goals, no education, we have some of the highest suicide rates 41 00:03:32,785 --> 00:03:36,810 due to his oppression, for 42 years he speaks from his Green Book 42 00:03:36,810 --> 00:03:39,523 this failed book of his, this joke of his 43 00:03:39,523 --> 00:03:46,041 it's all for his self interest 44 00:03:46,041 --> 00:03:48,415 and he constantly threatens us...what more can I say? 45 00:03:48,415 --> 00:03:50,888 we just want to be free, nothing more 46 00:03:50,888 --> 00:03:53,769 there are no drugs, we just want to be free. 47 00:03:53,769 --> 00:03:56,588 we want to learn, and be proud to be Libyan, 48 00:03:56,588 --> 00:03:59,328 but he destroyed our dreams and hopes 49 00:03:59,328 --> 00:04:01,858 he would round up people after friday prayers in large numbers 50 00:04:01,858 --> 00:04:04,599 40 at a time, and no one would hear from them again for 35 years. 51 00:04:04,599 --> 00:04:06,270 without trial 52 00:04:06,270 --> 00:04:08,245 he's a tyrant 53 00:04:08,245 --> 00:04:10,755 we said at first he was an oppressor, 54 00:04:10,755 --> 00:04:13,724 then we said he was a dog holding on to power 55 00:04:13,724 --> 00:04:16,418 and third we said he was a thug and killer, 56 00:04:16,418 --> 00:04:20,644 no, I don't even have words to describe him anymore 57 00:04:20,644 --> 00:04:22,487 about what he's doing 58 00:04:22,487 --> 00:04:24,731 we haven't seen anything, 59 00:04:24,731 --> 00:04:31,325 ANCHOR: Now, Sadam, if we were to imagine that Colonel Gadafi could hear you now 60 00:04:31,325 --> 00:04:33,658 what would you say to him? 61 00:04:33,658 --> 00:04:36,248 SADAM: I would tell him I'm going to slaughter you 62 00:04:36,248 --> 00:04:39,081 and throw you away like dogs 63 00:04:39,081 --> 00:04:41,310 like stray dogs 64 00:04:41,310 --> 00:04:43,324 you will not find a cemetery to lay on within Libya 65 00:04:43,324 --> 00:04:45,396 so you won't pollute it anymore 66 00:04:45,396 --> 00:04:57,877 there is no revenge big enough to repay all of your murders 67 00:04:57,877 --> 00:05:02,811 we are not the stray dogs, he and his family are 68 00:05:02,811 --> 00:05:07,163 he is the scum of the earth, he is the one that forced us 69 00:05:07,163 --> 00:05:09,220 to confront him 70 00:05:09,220 --> 00:05:12,657 Libya has been lost for 42 years 71 00:05:12,657 --> 00:05:15,558 he has polluted our country 72 00:05:15,558 --> 00:05:18,257 Gadafi, I am not afraid of you, 73 00:05:18,257 --> 00:05:20,772 I came out to send you the message that we are not afraid of you! 74 00:05:20,772 --> 00:05:23,245 and we will find you in your last corners 75 00:05:23,245 --> 00:05:25,149 even if we are unarmed 76 00:05:25,149 --> 00:05:27,564 Allah is on our side and the Devil is on yours, Muammar 77 00:05:27,564 --> 00:05:29,747 your fall is near! 78 00:05:29,747 --> 00:05:31,743 And we will throw you away like a dog! 79 00:05:31,743 --> 00:05:33,973 We aren't cowards, we're soldiers 80 00:05:33,973 --> 00:05:36,155 the liberated sons of Libya! 81 00:05:36,155 --> 00:05:39,564 this is my message to him. 82 00:05:39,564 --> 00:05:41,976 he had better be afraid! 83 00:05:41,976 --> 00:05:49,576 ANCHOR: Sadam, as a youth, what is the Libya that you would like to see? 84 00:05:49,576 --> 00:05:52,734 SADAM: I wish for a liberated Libya, free of exploitation 85 00:05:52,734 --> 00:05:55,213 free of absolute power 86 00:05:55,213 --> 00:05:59,011 where there are no dogs who control us 87 00:05:59,011 --> 00:06:01,461 A Libya that is always free! 88 00:06:01,461 --> 00:06:03,517 A Libya to be proud of! 89 00:06:03,517 --> 00:06:05,307 An educated Libya, 90 00:06:05,307 --> 00:06:06,290 a cultural Libya, 91 00:06:06,290 --> 00:06:08,224 a civilized Libya, 92 00:06:08,224 --> 00:06:10,044 a forward looking and progressive Libya 93 00:06:10,044 --> 00:06:12,295 we don't need somone to degrade us 94 00:06:12,295 --> 00:06:15,414 and kill our culture and civilization 95 00:06:15,414 --> 00:06:18,054 we want a future, I have goals 96 00:06:18,054 --> 00:06:20,552 I left without my family's permission 97 00:06:20,552 --> 00:06:24,038 I want deliver the Libyans' message 98 00:06:24,038 --> 00:06:28,289 it's a massacre, you can't imagine! 99 00:06:28,289 --> 00:06:29,675 It's worse than what you see on TV 100 00:06:29,675 --> 00:06:31,859 ANCHOR: Go ahead, you finish 101 00:06:31,859 --> 00:06:35,645 SADAM: The TV coverage doesn't show it all 102 00:06:35,645 --> 00:06:39,520 we in Al Baydah, we are the ones filming, carrying our dead 103 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,496 we are the ones fighting and protecting our homes 104 00:06:41,496 --> 00:06:47,487 this is a message I want to send to every Libyan 105 00:06:47,487 --> 00:06:50,422 Anyone who has a pharmacy, by Allah, please open it and help your brothers 106 00:06:50,422 --> 00:06:56,729 I swear, we have been ripping our clothes apart to bandage our wounded 107 00:06:56,729 --> 00:07:00,165 what else does Muammar want from us? 108 00:07:00,165 --> 00:07:05,537 You have dogs around you to protect you, you coward! 109 00:07:05,537 --> 00:07:14,328 Your destiny is hell. 110 00:07:14,328 --> 00:07:18,011 I apologize if i was out of line. 111 00:07:18,011 --> 00:07:20,651 ANCHORS: That's ok, we understand. 112 00:07:20,651 --> 00:07:27,069 Thank you, Sadam, speaking to us from Cairo. 113 00:07:27,069 --> 99:59:59,999 SADAM: Thank you, Al Jazeera...