1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what we call evangelization, give talks, explain the phiilosophy behind Mozilla 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and why it's important as a browser and not just a tool. 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 At first, I didn't like the word "evangelism". I didn't usually say 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that I "evangelized" Mozilla. I had the same problem others had. For me the word is too closely related 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to religion for me to use it as my own, but after a while 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it became the word that was closest to easily explaining what I was doing when 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I gave talks, especially when speaking about the philosophy of Mozilla. 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'm not a developer and so, in general, the talks I give are 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about what Mozilla is as an institution, what the Open Web is, what free software is 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 My name is Guillermo Movia. I'm part of the Mozilla Community in Argentina 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I work on the localization of products, web pages, 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and what the implications are of all that, what it is we do and why I believe it's important ... 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and why I like doing it. Eventually, I wound up accepting that 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it was a good way to describe it all, that it was okay to use the word "evangelism." 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It was during a talk ... no, I think it was it mostly during the first few times 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with Chris Hoffmann. We talked about what the underlying objectives were 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and what the concepts were that they had formed about Mozilla emerging as a project 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and how it would be self-sustaining. Later, when I understood, when I became aware 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the breadth and the importance that the Web could have as a means of communication 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which could provide greater opportunity for creativity to each individual and not just to the mass media 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think that, yes, it's pride, 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in a sense, like having your stomach tied up in knots, but then all of a sudden 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you see it is important, it's really ..., I'm not simply translating. 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Mainly I think it's not so much the Web itself as I see it 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but rather that each individual, each human being, starts to relate to others 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 through what can be created on the Web. For me the web it's like 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 returning to a place in which relationships were important, giving up somewhat 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the importance of the monetary in life, a return to respecting 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 certain values which have nothing to do the financial economy. 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 More respect, more interaction, a collaboration. 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, I don't see it as something technological, but the web in fifty 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 To have more fun. 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, yes, I think that the analogy between the monopoly of banks, 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that is, the economic monopoly of the banks, the whole banking system, 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the monopoly of the Web in the hands of a few is completely valid. 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Where there is a monopoly or, in this case, an oligopoly in which very few 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 people have much more power than others, we're going to have difficulties, 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 ... those of us who are outside those oligopolies. 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Therefore, I believe it's a good analogy because it's part of the same process, 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's part of the same process which attempts make a monopoly of the Web, in the hands of a few. 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If the banks were more decentrailized or if we could break from that system a bit 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I believe it would be very interesting, in principle, small communities 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 many small "movements" begun, which continue. 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They are interesting. Especially those that attempted to escape a bit from 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the hierarchical structure of society, those that attempted to achieve a greater "horizontal" form of collaboration. 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There were groups that functioned via simple commerce or based on the barter of 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 products, factories revived by the workers themselves. They are all movements 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which have ... which sustain themselves because they are much more horizontal in nature 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and which have succeeded in spite of being at a disadvantage in an economic system, 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 enduring due to the horizontal nature of their work. 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in that the Web is important and is helping a great deal, 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And the thing that helps is horizontal collaboration. The fact that many organizations are 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 successful, like Mozilla, like other free software projects. 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is important because it demonstrates the possibility of a successful, horizontal form of work, 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that a hierarchical structure is not needed in order to succeed. That is, it's possible for a project to be 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Organizations whose objectives are horizontal, with a search for values 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and not for profit. That is, it's not solely a question of economics. 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 were not fighting for this, the Web would become the same as the 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 other large mechanisms of mass communication. That is, dominated by a few, 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 as was the initial "information highway" project of Bill Gates, networks ... 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the AOL network, the Microsoft network, the network of ... whomever, Apple now, the Facebook network.... 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Actually, I believe that if Mozilla didn't exist, we wouldn't see ... the Web wouldn't be much different from 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what the other forms of communication are, it would be more about dissemination than 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it would be about each person being able to create, to participate in that creation. 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I met with people at Mozilla, with Mitchell Baker or Chris Blizzard at that time, 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because they have an economic power. 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 From that we can achieve a situation where people can create and can take part in their culture. 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 years, giving each individual more power to interact with others 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and improve their lives and be happier, which in reality is what we all want. 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We are going to have to defeat them. At some point we are going to end up losing 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 working together as one. In the last crisis in Argentina, in 2001, there were 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Yes, and this, this is why I believe it's related to the Web. 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a successful project without having an economic objective. 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Actually, not just Mozilla, but Mozilla and other organizations 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that prevent or try to prevent what we see in other 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the other sectors of society. If Mozilla or other organizations 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a strange sensation because it's similar to ... anxiousness 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and in the evangelization, 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but also the philosophy behind it.