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Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we call evangelization, give talks, explain the phiilosophy behind Mozilla
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and why it's important as a browser and not just a tool.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At first, I didn't like the word "evangelism". I didn't usually say
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I "evangelized" Mozilla. I had the same problem others had. For me the word is too closely related
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to religion for me to use it as my own, but after a while
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it became the word that was closest to easily explaining what I was doing when
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I gave talks, especially when speaking about the philosophy of Mozilla.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not a developer and so, in general, the talks I give are
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what Mozilla is as an institution, what the Open Web is, what free software is
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Guillermo Movia. I'm part of the Mozilla Community in Argentina
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I work on the localization of products, web pages,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what the implications are of all that, what it is we do and why I believe it's important ...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and why I like doing it. Eventually, I wound up accepting that
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a good way to describe it all, that it was okay to use the word "evangelism."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was during a talk ... no, I think it was it mostly during the first few times
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Chris Hoffmann. We talked about what the underlying objectives were
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what the concepts were that they had formed about Mozilla emerging as a project
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how it would be self-sustaining. Later, when I understood, when I became aware
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the breadth and the importance that the Web could have as a means of communication
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which could provide greater opportunity for creativity to each individual and not just to the mass media
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that, yes, it's pride,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a sense, like having your stomach tied up in knots, but then all of a sudden
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see it is important, it's really ..., I'm not simply translating.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mainly I think it's not so much the Web itself as I see it
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but rather that each individual, each human being, starts to relate to others
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through what can be created on the Web.\NFor me the web it's like
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,returning to a place in which relationships were important, giving up somewhat
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the importance of the monetary in life, a return to respecting
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain values which have nothing to do the financial economy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More respect, more interaction, a collaboration.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I don't see it as something technological, but the web in fifty
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To have more fun.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yes, I think that the analogy between the monopoly of banks,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is, the economic monopoly of the banks, the whole banking system,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the monopoly of the Web in the hands of a few is completely valid.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where there is a monopoly or, in this case, an oligopoly in which very few
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people have much more power than others, we're going to have difficulties,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... those of us who are outside those oligopolies.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore, I believe it's a good analogy because it's part of the same process,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's part of the same process which attempts make a monopoly of the Web, in the hands of a few.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the banks were more decentrailized or if we could break from that system a bit
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe it would be very interesting, in principle, small communities
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many small "movements" begun, which continue.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are interesting. Especially those that attempted to escape a bit from
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hierarchical structure of society, those that attempted to achieve a greater "horizontal" form of collaboration.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were groups that functioned via simple commerce or based on the barter of
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,products, factories revived by the workers themselves. They are all movements
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which have ... which sustain themselves because they are much more horizontal in nature
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and which have succeeded in spite of being at a disadvantage in an economic system,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enduring due to the horizontal nature of their work.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that the Web is important and is helping a great deal,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the thing that helps is horizontal collaboration. The fact that many organizations are
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,successful, like Mozilla, like other free software projects.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is important because it demonstrates the possibility of a successful, horizontal form of work,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a hierarchical structure is not needed in order to succeed. That is, it's possible for a project to be
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Organizations whose objectives are horizontal, with a search for values
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not for profit. That is, it's not solely a question of economics.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were not fighting for this, the Web would become the same as the
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other large mechanisms of mass communication. That is, dominated by a few,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as was the initial "information highway" project of Bill Gates, networks ...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the AOL network, the Microsoft network, the network of ... whomever, Apple now, the Facebook network....
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, I believe that if Mozilla didn't exist, we wouldn't see ... the Web wouldn't be much different from
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the other forms of communication are, it would be more about dissemination than
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would be about each person being able to create, to participate in that creation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I met with people at Mozilla, with Mitchell Baker or Chris Blizzard at that time,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they have an economic power.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From that we can achieve a situation where people can create and can take part in their culture.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years, giving each individual more power to interact with others
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and improve their lives and be happier, which in reality is what we all want.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are going to have to defeat them. At some point we are going to end up losing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working together as one. In the last crisis in Argentina, in 2001, there were
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, and this, this is why I believe it's related to the Web.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a successful project without having an economic objective.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, not just Mozilla, but Mozilla and other organizations
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that prevent or try to prevent what we see in other
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the other sectors of society. If Mozilla or other organizations
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a strange sensation because it's similar to ... anxiousness
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the evangelization,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also the philosophy behind it.