WEBVTT 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 what we call evangelization, give talks, explain the phiilosophy behind Mozilla 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and why it's important as a browser and not just a tool. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 At first, I didn't like the word "evangelism". I didn't usually say 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that I "evangelized" Mozilla. I had the same problem others had. For me the word is too closely related 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to religion for me to use it as my own, but after a while 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it became the word that was closest to easily explaining what I was doing when 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I gave talks, especially when speaking about the philosophy of Mozilla. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'm not a developer and so, in general, the talks I give are 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 about what Mozilla is as an institution, what the Open Web is, what free software is 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 My name is Guillermo Movia. I'm part of the Mozilla Community in Argentina 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I work on the localization of products, web pages, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and what the implications are of all that, what it is we do and why I believe it's important ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and why I like doing it. Eventually, I wound up accepting that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it was a good way to describe it all, that it was okay to use the word "evangelism." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It was during a talk ... no, I think it was it mostly during the first few times 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with Chris Hoffmann. We talked about what the underlying objectives were 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and what the concepts were that they had formed about Mozilla emerging as a project 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and how it would be self-sustaining. Later, when I understood, when I became aware 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of the breadth and the importance that the Web could have as a means of communication 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which could provide greater opportunity for creativity to each individual and not just to the mass media 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I think that, yes, it's pride, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in a sense, like having your stomach tied up in knots, but then all of a sudden 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you see it is important, it's really ..., I'm not simply translating. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Mainly I think it's not so much the Web itself as I see it 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but rather that each individual, each human being, starts to relate to others 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 through what can be created on the Web. For me the web it's like 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 returning to a place in which relationships were important, giving up somewhat 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the importance of the monetary in life, a return to respecting 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 certain values which have nothing to do the financial economy. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 More respect, more interaction, a collaboration. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, I don't see it as something technological, but the web in fifty 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 To have more fun. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, yes, I think that the analogy between the monopoly of banks, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that is, the economic monopoly of the banks, the whole banking system, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the monopoly of the Web in the hands of a few is completely valid. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Where there is a monopoly or, in this case, an oligopoly in which very few 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 people have much more power than others, we're going to have difficulties, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 ... those of us who are outside those oligopolies. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Therefore, I believe it's a good analogy because it's part of the same process, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it's part of the same process which attempts make a monopoly of the Web, in the hands of a few. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If the banks were more decentrailized or if we could break from that system a bit 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I believe it would be very interesting, in principle, small communities 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 many small "movements" begun, which continue. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They are interesting. Especially those that attempted to escape a bit from 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the hierarchical structure of society, those that attempted to achieve a greater "horizontal" form of collaboration. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 There were groups that functioned via simple commerce or based on the barter of 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 products, factories revived by the workers themselves. They are all movements 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which have ... which sustain themselves because they are much more horizontal in nature 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and which have succeeded in spite of being at a disadvantage in an economic system, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 enduring due to the horizontal nature of their work. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in that the Web is important and is helping a great deal, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And the thing that helps is horizontal collaboration. The fact that many organizations are 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 successful, like Mozilla, like other free software projects. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is important because it demonstrates the possibility of a successful, horizontal form of work, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that a hierarchical structure is not needed in order to succeed. That is, it's possible for a project to be 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Organizations whose objectives are horizontal, with a search for values 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and not for profit. That is, it's not solely a question of economics. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 were not fighting for this, the Web would become the same as the 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 other large mechanisms of mass communication. That is, dominated by a few, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 as was the initial "information highway" project of Bill Gates, networks ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the AOL network, the Microsoft network, the network of ... whomever, Apple now, the Facebook network.... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Actually, I believe that if Mozilla didn't exist, we wouldn't see ... the Web wouldn't be much different from 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 what the other forms of communication are, it would be more about dissemination than 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it would be about each person being able to create, to participate in that creation. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I met with people at Mozilla, with Mitchell Baker or Chris Blizzard at that time, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because they have an economic power. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 From that we can achieve a situation where people can create and can take part in their culture. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 years, giving each individual more power to interact with others 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and improve their lives and be happier, which in reality is what we all want. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We are going to have to defeat them. At some point we are going to end up losing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 working together as one. In the last crisis in Argentina, in 2001, there were 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Yes, and this, this is why I believe it's related to the Web. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a successful project without having an economic objective. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Actually, not just Mozilla, but Mozilla and other organizations 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that prevent or try to prevent what we see in other 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of the other sectors of society. If Mozilla or other organizations 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a strange sensation because it's similar to ... anxiousness 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and in the evangelization, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but also the philosophy behind it.