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Juliet Schor and Plenitude

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    (We're here with Juliet Schor
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    this is in Manhattan
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    and
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    She's a professor at Boston College
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    cofounder of the Center New American Dream
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    She also wrote the books
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    the overspent american
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    the overworked american
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    and recently she published about FeF in Plenitude
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    tell us more, maybe more about yourself
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    How we got here
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    what do you see as the point of collaborating)
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    I think there are a lot of them
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    One we're both interested in shifting
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    to ecological sustainable production systems
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    Number two
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    we both understand
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    human reproduction can be done using
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    far less labour than it is today
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    so there are tremendous efficiencies posible
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    by changing to new forms of economy
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    and new technologies
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    I focus more on the new economic forms
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    rather than the technologies
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    understanding that they go together
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    but I spent a lot of my career
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    basically working on the ways the current
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    extraordinarily wasteful
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    and how we could have
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    good high-quality high-satisfaction
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    low eco-impact lifestyles
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    with very low levels of hours of labour required for them
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    american
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    being a society
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    to reduce hours of work
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    to one in which in which the average american is
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    working more and more hours, and unnecesarily so
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    (now you're gonna republish
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    Plenitude
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    tell us more about it)
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    So Plenitude is a book about
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    which involves sort of
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    withdrawing from the market economy
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    working fewer hours
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    spending less money in the consumer economy
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    and get involved in more DIY
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    the term that I used in that book
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    came from the wonderful visionary phylosopher
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    Richard Bergman
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    one of the key messages from the book
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    is that it's now posible
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    at a very small scale
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    to be highly efficient productive
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    the scale of the industrial era which was big
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    the optimal scale has declined pretty dramatically
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    and what this means for individuals, households and communities
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    is that they can do a lot of the production of their own needs locally
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    high skilled and high productivity labour
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    but actually with local
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    much of the philosophy of Plenitude
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    and the principles of Plenitude which are
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    shorter hours of work
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    and time affluence
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    and the business as usual
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    new time of consuming
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    true materialism
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    and the fourth
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    social capital
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    creating economic interdependence
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    very local scale
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    connection
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    local scale
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    those are very much the same
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    I think many of the principles of FeF and OSE
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    (yeah)
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    parallel lines in terms of the economic ideas behind the models
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    (yeah, yeah)
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    (how do you think we can work together
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    on these topics
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    so what are some of the practical aspects
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    from these meetings)
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    i would love collaboration
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    network
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    plenitude practitioners - i wouldn't name
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    spreading these ideas
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    people doing more high-tech self-providing
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    delinking
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    also some interesting issues
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    on the educational side
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    MacArthur
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    connected learning
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    connection is a word you use quite a bit
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    people-nature, people-people
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    connected technology
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    so on and so forth
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    i think that's another area
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    I'm going to be studying
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    open source hardware movement
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    (so we'll be a case-study)
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    upskilling
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    yes, you'll be a case study
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    in the research that i'm doing for MacArthur
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    which is a fundation Chicago
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    (hum, hum)
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    I just want to end by saying
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    I love FeF OSE
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    i love this project
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    really visionary and practical at the same time
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    and it's the way of the future
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    (thanks Juliet)
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    and Happy New Year!
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    (yeah)
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Juliet Schor and Plenitude
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