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(We're here with Juliet Schor
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this is in Manhattan
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and
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She's a professor at Boston College
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cofounder of the Center New American Dream
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She also wrote the books
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the overspent american
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the overworked american
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and recently she published about FeF in Plenitude
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tell us more, maybe more about yourself
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How we got here
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what do you see as the point of collaborating)
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I think there are a lot of them
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One we're both interested in shifting
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to ecological sustainable production systems
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Number two
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we both understand
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human reproduction can be done using
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far less labour than it is today
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so there are tremendous efficiencies posible
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by changing to new forms of economy
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and new technologies
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I focus more on the new economic forms
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rather than the technologies
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understanding that they go together
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but I spent a lot of my career
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basically working on the ways the current
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extraordinarily wasteful
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and how we could have
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good high-quality high-satisfaction
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low eco-impact lifestyles
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with very low levels of hours of labour required for them
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american
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being a society
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to reduce hours of work
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to one in which in which the average american is
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working more and more hours, and unnecesarily so
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(now you're gonna republish
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Plenitude
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tell us more about it)
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So Plenitude is a book about
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which involves sort of
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withdrawing from the market economy
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working fewer hours
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spending less money in the consumer economy
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and get involved in more DIY
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the term that I used in that book
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came from the wonderful visionary phylosopher
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Richard Bergman
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one of the key messages from the book
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is that it's now posible
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at a very small scale
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to be highly efficient productive
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the scale of the industrial era which was big
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the optimal scale has declined pretty dramatically
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and what this means for individuals, households and communities
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is that they can do a lot of the production of their own needs locally
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high skilled and high productivity labour
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but actually with local
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much of the philosophy of Plenitude
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and the principles of Plenitude which are
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shorter hours of work
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and time affluence
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and the business as usual
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new time of consuming
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true materialism
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and the fourth
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social capital
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creating economic interdependence
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very local scale
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connection
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local scale
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those are very much the same
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I think many of the principles of FeF and OSE
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parallel lines in terms of the economic ideas behind the models
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(how do you think we can work together
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so what are some of the practical aspects
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from these meetings)
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i would love collaboration
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network
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plenitude practitioners - i wouldn't name
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spreading these ideas
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people doing more high-tech self-providing
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delinking
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also some interesting issues
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on the educational side
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MacArthur
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connected learning
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connection is a word you use quite a bit
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people-nature, people-people
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connected technology
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so on and so forth
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i think that's another area
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I'm going to be studying
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open source hardware movement
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(so we'll be a case-study)
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upskilling
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yes, you'll be a case study
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in the research that i'm doing for MacArthur
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which is a fundation Chicago
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(hum, hum)
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I just want to end by saying
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I love FeF OSE
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i love this project
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really visionary and practical at the same time
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and it's the way of the future
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(thanks Juliet)
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and Happy New Year!
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